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(18-08-2015, 00:38)wife4rent Wrote: [ -> ]Why are you guys so obsessed with UKP?

I was a member and got banned, there was a good reason for me to be banned, they didn't like me, fair enough. Do I constantly go back and look at what they are posting ? No!

Why? Because I really do not care, most of them are meaningless idiots, the rest are just sheep.

Do you find many girls looking at the site? No!

So why are you punters so obsessed with what they are doing? Either join them or ignore them

Sarah x x x

PS If you are banned it means that you are not welcome, take the hint

By and large I would agree with you Sarah but don't forget this is a site concerning AW and so is UK Punting as it relies almost entirely on AW for its content, UK Punting would not exist without AW. Your right people shouldn't just come here and slag it off because they've been banned, they were happy enough with the site before that so it is a little hypocritical if your banning is just a case of falling out with another member or Admin.

I however have never been a member and resent the fact they claim to speak for and represent the interests of punters, it really was a missed opportunity and it's a shame IMO that NIK did not keep control of the site as the current Admin has an agenda all of his own and it has nothing to do with "putting the punter first". A recent drive to increase membership saw him openly encouraging members to take on more accounts, now a member can write one, two, three or more reviews all for the same wg that can appear to have been written by different people, that's just conning punters, if I can warn other punters about that kind of thing I will.

The amount of nonsense on the site is incredible and it shows how few experienced punters with forum history the site has, how easy was it for me to spot a child writing reviews and they even let this person contribute to their Punting Wiki, do you remember Simon turning up and defending the Barrister, Simon is typical of their membership he finds it very difficult to distinguish fact from fiction even when it seems pretty clear.

And Sarah the sites policy of allowing a wgs personal details to be revealed is just not on it will only invite retaliation, and as for the posts and threads that encourage violence or forcing sex acts on wgs well if you think that should be ignored your just plain wrong, as I've said before things like that have only been removed after being mentioned elsewhere, the decent ones on UK Punting can't do anything about it because Admin approves of them. You don't have to read the words of the man who runs this site for very long before you realise he has a seething hatred for wgs and I really don't think he'll be happy until he provokes something very nasty.

Do you remember a few years ago a certain politician took some of the more unpleasant phrases and comments from Punternet reviews and held them up as typical of the attitudes of men who pay for sex, can you imagine how much ammunition UK Punting is providing. If paying for sex is ever made a criminal offence UK Punting will have contributed to that.
FYI it's not only WG's info that is given out....he took it upon himself to disclose mine as well, not that bothered to be honest but yes it is very naughty indeed, I don't regret joining as I was relatively new to the punting scene, also I rather naively thought there would be some good banter between like minded individuals as I rather enjoy a good bit of banter.....at least the boob who got me banned has been banned himself for touting lool.
Let's remember people life is a bowl of cherries, walk tall and breath through your nose Wink

xKatieBabyx

You are obsessed! UKP is populated with angry little woman haters and fake "punters", it holds no value whatsoever. the reviews you find on there can't be trusted. Your best bet when checking out a girl is to read her adultwork feedback, and actually speak to her. If she has webcam ticked then speak to her via webcam so you can see her too. And always trust your instinct.
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(18-08-2015, 13:11)Nova70 Wrote: [ -> ]I however have never been a member and resent the fact they claim to speak for and represent the interests of punters

And their was me thinking you were all individuals, that each person had their own mind.

I never thought they did "represent the interests of punters", which is probably why I feel they are irrelevant, surely each and every one of them only represents their own view on any matter, only if others agree do they show they have the same view.

It really does not matter if you have ever been a member or not, you should still be able to think for yourself.

Sarah x x x
Pfft as said before each site has valid points and useful info ukp, saafe etc

You just got to draw from the useful parts and ignore the parts that are negative as mentioned above you ultimately have to think for yourself

Malice for places you don't approve of is wasted energy
(18-08-2015, 18:53)wife4rent Wrote: [ -> ]
(18-08-2015, 13:11)Nova70 Wrote: [ -> ]I however have never been a member and resent the fact they claim to speak for and represent the interests of punters

And their was me thinking you were all individuals, that each person had their own mind.

I never thought they did "represent the interests of punters", which is probably why I feel they are irrelevant, surely each and every one of them only represents their own view on any matter, only if others agree do they show they have the same view.

It really does not matter if you have ever been a member or not, you should still be able to think for yourself.

Sarah x x x

Strange, for someone who says we should drop the subject you still manage to turn up here.

Yes we are all individuals but UK Punting claim to speak for us all not just their members, I'm a punter and they don't speak for me and I no plenty who feel the same and we don't want a site that has a high proportion of fantasists, kids etc giving the rest of us a bad name. I often wonder why they let it get that way, if your new to punting as a review site it's practically useless as there's so much crap on there it would be impossible to know what to trust and what to ignore.

And please don't forget Sarah every time they reveal a wgs personal details, every time they allow threats and abuse, every time they allow malicious fake reviews, every time they allow one of their idiots to use the AW username of a real punter they are attacking AW, well I'm an AW member and I'm not very happy about that.
(18-08-2015, 19:56)comaaminion Wrote: [ -> ]Pfft as said before each site has valid points and useful info ukp, saafe etc

You just got to draw from the useful parts and ignore the parts that are negative as mentioned above you ultimately have to think for yourself

Malice for places you don't approve of is wasted energy

True every site has both useful information along with a little crap unfortunately the opposite is true of UK Punting where the crap seems to be given priority. I have learned to think for myself that's why I'm not fooled by kids, Barristers or any other of the assorted oddballs unlike you and most others on UK Punting, tell me comaaminion had you worked out that James999 was actually Admin, you can't answer that of course can you or you'll be banned.

You do realise don't you that by letting all this nonsense continue your Admin is really saying "I can feed this bunch of idiots anything and they'll believe it" if your happy being treated like that fine that's your choice.

"Malice for places you don't approve of is wasted energy" well do make sure you tell that to the Admin on UK Punting as you'll find his views on SAAFE are rather more forthright than my own, sorry I forgot you can't tell him can you because he'll ban you.

I don't think I have been malicious as all I've really done is drawn attention to a small amount of the fake stuff on your site, shouldn't you be thanking me, and please don't forget I have praised the site occasionally as well.

Bottom line is I'd be all in favour of a site where "the punter comes first" but I'm not to enthusiastic about a site where the fantasist comes first and the bloke in charge is using it to wage his sad little vendetta against all wgs.
(19-08-2015, 03:55)Nova70 Wrote: [ -> ]Strange, for someone who says we should drop the subject you still manage to turn up here.

As I said before, I have no interest in UKP they are a complete waste of time, my posts are NOT about UKP I am talking about the idiots obsessed by them.

(19-08-2015, 03:55)Nova70 Wrote: [ -> ]Yes we are all individuals but UK Punting claim to speak for us all not just their members

There are many idiots on the internet that make claims...

(19-08-2015, 03:55)Nova70 Wrote: [ -> ]And please don't forget Sarah every time they reveal a wgs personal details, every time they allow threats and abuse, every time they allow malicious fake reviews, every time they allow one of their idiots to use the AW username of a real punter they are attacking AW, well I'm an AW member and I'm not very happy about that.

And you are taking on the task of policing them...?

Unfortunately you are choosing to do it from afar and not as a member of their site, as you should be doing, can you not see how pathetic that looks? How can you ever achieve anything if you do not tell the people directly to their "virtual faces"?

If you had been a member and got banned for protesting about the right and wrongs of what they do it would be a little more understandable.

Many of your claims, as above, are that you are protecting the rights of WG's, why is it you don't have an army of WG's all praising your actions and joining your protests?

Why not start your own anti-UKP forum to campaign against them and build up a following of like mined people, once you have enough people all saying the same maybe they will listen, change their ways and you will have achieved what you want. Or do you feel it would be a very lonely place?

What are you achieving by your constant winging? Nothing.

Ok so you have made claims or you believe, that things have been taken down by what you have posted, but this is indirect action as it was not you that achieved it, it was somebody else that would have drawn their attention to it / made it happen, as your not a member.

So to achieve your aim you are relying on others to do your work?

Bottom line is - Your Ineffective!

Sarah x x x
It's not a campaign a protest or even policing most of my posts have been in response to others on this thread, the site takes itself very seriously I just enjoy pointing out how easily fooled they are. The site is actually supposed to be self-policing the threaded review format is intended to replace the process of checking reviews before they go online, the members themselves are given the task of spotting anything fake, malicious or nasty, well they've failed miserably I think I've proved that.

You only have to look at those UK Punting members that have turned up here to see why, Simon thought the Barrister was for real and comaaminion thinks you should just ignore the malicious or violent stuff. Should I join ? well how long would a real punter with a mind of his own last. The "where the punter comes first" philosophy has been twisted into "all prossies are liars and cheats" this attitude has come back to bite them on the arse and make them look sillier still, the child UberX was actually revealed as a fake by a wg but of course her word was worth less than zero, posts from both wgs and punters that have cast doubt on another "punters" claims have been deleted. Fantasists and trolls have realised this and know they can get away with almost anything and draw a crowd.

My posts have been directly effective because the Admin on UK Punting reads this forum, he sometimes comments on it but without actually naming it, why else do you think UberX's reviews were deleted, that was actually some achievement as it clearly states on the site "Reviews cannot be deleted" well apparently they can.

It's not a campaign it's a counter point, do you remember when we were told that a thread on here was being monitored and they were adding some of the contributors to that thread to their Prostitute Blacklist, well I think I did a pretty good job of undermining it and now anyone who reads that Blacklist has an alternative view of it.

Should UK Punting be ignored, most of the crap on there yes but I don't think you should ignore serious malicious allegations, threats of violence or threats of sexual assault because if you do they will get braver and go further and who knows where that could lead.