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With the webcam booking system the client books, the cammer can then accept or reject the booking, if she chooses to accept the client then has to confir. Neither party can leave feedback until the above procedure has been followed and the alloted time for the booking has passed. Surely this would be a better system for escorts too?
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#12
Probably yes, but it increases the chance that somebody (either the escort or the client) will miss out a stage.

What's currently supposed to happen is that the booking is arranged by other means ( AW email, phonecall, or text), the client then enters a "scheduled" booking, the escort changes it to "confirmed" AFTER the session, and both can then leave a rating and feedback: if a booking is left as "scheduled", a feedback-only comment can still be left, but no rating. But some escorts confirm BEFORE the meeting, apparently to reassure the client that she's seen the booking request and now has it in her diary. And some never confirm at all: I've seen profiles with numerous favourable "feedback-only" comments from clients who were unable to give a rating because she failed to confirm.

It would be difficult to design a system that couldn't be abused by either a dodgy client or a dishonest escort, without making it perhaps too complicated, given that even the relatively simple current system isn't being used properly in many cases.
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The webcam system is still open to scams but they are rare because it ' seems' to be complicated. The main issue however is that feedback can be left just by filling out a booking form, this is what needs to be addressed. Escorts need the ability to accept or decline the booking and feedback should only be permitted after the alloted booking time. If such a system can be set up for webcam then I don't understand why it can't for escorts.
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#14
@Simon And your point is?
(14-07-2015, 09:17)Simon Wrote: Probably yes, but it increases the chance that somebody (either the escort or the client) will miss out a stage.
As is possible at the moment and often happens...
(14-07-2015, 09:17)Simon Wrote: What's currently supposed to happen is that the booking is arranged by other means ( AW email, phonecall, or text), the client then enters a "scheduled" booking,

Try telling the punters that... How come each week I get 10-20 bookings from guys who never got in touch with me first? I even had one on Sunday that wanted me to do an out call to east London and said in his message on the booking he was just being hopeful.

Hence the reason for my suggestion to be able to reject the bookings so it has been deleted from the system, neither party can leave feedback. Currently if I delete the booking the client can leave me bad feedback and I have no way to respond. I assume that if a client has deleted the booking I also could leave feedback and they also would not be able to respond.
(14-07-2015, 09:17)Simon Wrote: ..some escorts confirm BEFORE the meeting, apparently to reassure the client that she's seen the booking request and now has it in her diary.

Yes that is the general idea, both parties then know a booking HAS been made and both agree with the terms. Punters often put conditions on the booking request.

So my idea of switching the delete to a reject and at that point the booking has been accepted or declined, we do have a right to decline a booking.

If nothing happens it stays as it is at the moment. Both parties can leave feedback.

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(13-07-2015, 21:12)Simon Wrote: What I'm thinking is that a scammer could "reject the booking" at the last possible moment, just before the client knocks on the door. He has no chance to find out that the booking was cancelled, gets robbed, and can't leave feedback to warn others.

Yes I never thought about that, if there was a reject option it would then become vital for the booking to be confirmed before the meet which doesn't always happen, now for someone looking to make a booking just to leave bad feedback and with no intention of actually turning up they would then be in possession of a confirmation email. The best solution is to take away the ability of someone making a booking request to leave feedback, the ability to leave feedback should start at the confirmation stage of the booking request.
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#16
An example of a booking request made today..

1st message @ 130436

"hi sarah, I would like you to do an outcall to my place in taplow. should I book you threw adultworks ? 2hrs if possible on sunday 19th july 2015. if you would like to talk to me, my mobile is xxx"

I did not read it to respond.

Booking made @ 134459 40 minutes later

2hr(s) for 250 GBP on 20/07/2015 at 12:00:00

This guy has made a booking for Monday, not as he asked on Sunday, that I can not decline or reject, he has asked me to do a 2 hr booking which I do not offer at a price he has made up himself to include a £50 discount on my hourly rate.

If I delete it he may leave me bad feedback that I can not then reply to. If there was an option to reject / decline / refuse the booking, as we are entitled to do this would make the booking system more user friendly for girls that get bookings like the above.

I have replied asking which day he wants and what he plans to do with me for two hours.

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#17
I do sympathise and can see your problem and why you want the option to reject but I think Simon was right to point out how that could be abused, the only real solution is to withdraw the ability to leave feedback at the proposed booking stage and only allow it at the confirmation stage or as seems to be the case with webcam bookings after the booking time has passed. As a punter I don't think I'd be any worse off if this happened, you do sometimes see feedback left on fake profiles from those who have tried to book several times but frankly if a profile has been around for a while and has no feedback or dubious looking feedback you should be a little sceptical anyway.

Just out of interest and without using this members actual username does he look legit or not, does he have feedback and how long has he been on AW.
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#18
There is abuse on both sides.

On the other hand I have received emails from confused clients who did not use the booking form, asking why I have not left feedback.

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#19
For the most part I think the booking system is a good idea it's their for our safety and security and can prevent us wasting both time and money but clearly it does need a few changes, I would advise punters to email first and ask if the day/time you want is possible and only when you've agreed everything make a formal booking so feedback can be left.

As I said before I only use the booking system occasionally now because I have enough feedback but most new users will have to use it sooner or later if they don't want to be restricted in who they see, many service providers do ask to see at least one positive feedback, the most I've ever seen as a prerequisite is five and ten for an outcall, I suspect that most wgs are wary of those "punters" who have zero feedback and make booking requests in the same way that I'm sceptical of profiles with zero feedback.
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#20
My experience is that feedback and use of a booking form or not, does not mean any more or less security. Some of the most notorious guys for messing around, or being unsavoury use booking forms and also have plenty of positive feedback, and the same goes for SPs.

I rarely use the AW booking system, and take just as many bookings via my own website as I do from men who have found me on AW.

Zero feedback in my experience simply means the guy hasn't entered the system, it doesn't mean to me that he's a TW or any less genuine than anyone else - I make up my own mind based on how he is with me. I often see SSs who have zero feedback, and not had any problems so far. On the other hand I could have a list of SSs who have lots of great feedback, but whom I would definitely not see - and also know many of the ladies in that feedback list would also not see again.

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