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Best way of sorting out what one wants before money is exchanged
#11
Have to say I feel kinda sorry for you Forrest. Feedback and field reports are definitely the way forward - there are plenty of girls on AW who are highly professional and will provide the services outlined in their profile without any problems, these are the girls who will have lots of positive feedback from happy punters. Remember that the 'likes' list isn't always a list of services provided in a booking, always check via email/phonecall that the services you require will be provided for. Other than that, it's pretty much trial and error. You sound like a straight-forward punter and it's a shame that you have been mislead by false advertising. Do leave feedback in these cases as it will help other clients in deciding whether or not to book the girl - something like "enjoyable meeting but x,y and z weren't provided as discussed" would suffice. Good luck and I hope you find what/who you're looking for!
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#12
Firstly I am sorry you have had these bad experiences. Secondly the SP's phone should be switched off, or to silent and put away in a drawer or elsewhere if only for her own security. Thirdly yes if someone reduced their booking time after arriving it would be quite annoying however as a professional I'd keep that annoyance from them as best I could(biting my tongue is the expression which best describes this!).

SPs who operate deceitfully don't do any of us any favours, and sometimes whether or not this has been experienced it can also provide fodder for TWs in the form of continuous questions about services, "Is it really you in the photos?" going over and over details time and time again claiming to have been the victim of an unscrupulous SP. Whilst I've no doubt some will have been, I have the distinct feeling it is also abused so means genuine punters also then get a bit of a double whammy.

I don't know how to sift through those who aren't offering what they say they are, a bit like when I went property hunting and had my time wasted via misleading photos and descriptions of facilities which weren't quite what they said they were. On more than one occasion some issues only came to light after I'd signed contracts so I can only guess this is something like the way you feel at times.

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#13
I've gotta tell ya... you can leave here after half an hour or 40 minutes if you like, but if you do, then that is your choice and if you think you will be leaving with any kind of a "refund" for time unused then you've got another thing coming!

Truth is, it's about quality, not quantity.

We all say that we charge for our time, but that's just an Americanism. They say that over there because prostitution is illegal, so they don't buy sex... they buy time and company and anything else which happens is between consenting adults. Which is, of course, bullshit. They know it, you know it and we know it. In the UK, last time I looked, prostitution was perfectly legal. We say you are paying for our time, but we all know that is bollocks. You give us money and we let you stick your dick into us. It's as simple as that really. Payment for "time" for full service from an independent escort is just more convenient and easier to manage than paying for "services" like you do in a parlour.

Yea, sure, there is a time element to it... but that is only really relevant to a small number of guys. Most are here for kiss and a cuddle, a bit of a natter and a good sensual shag and they pay £150 for it and it takes about an hour, give or take five or ten minutes... or half an hour in your case! lol.
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#14
wow well done forest-gimp you are getting girls to chat to you for free !! hats off for that lol

honest i charge per min for less chat than this rather that than replying to this guy!!! put your time into aw or any other site your on Big Grin

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#15
sorry forrest, was picking you up wrong.

its a shame you've had experiences like that - i would always take my que from the customer (re: when time is over - unless they're taking the piss), and really bad form to take bookings over the phone while you're there.

hopefully it doesn't put you off Smile
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#16
(03-01-2013, 22:14)Forrest-gimp Wrote: Had mostly great experiences with Escorts. But lately had some problems getting girls to do as they agreed via text/email/verbally and listed as things they like. Main problem is not being allowed to have sex more than once in the meeting. Always with foreign girls

Any tips from the girls or more experienced clients on how to get what one wants has paid for without

1. Arguing with the girl before getting down to business
2. Offending her
3. Getting into trouble with her "bouncer" . Never happened so far but you hear of so many horror stories

Joe

Hi Forest gimp

Whatever your bad experiences are with foreign escorts, I think it's still unfair to say that in general foreign girls don't provide good service or that are lying about the services they provide... or even not allowing to have sex more than once (?) Not all foreign girls are like that ( well, at least not the ones that work for themselves, or the ones that are NOT forced to work).
My advice? Spend those £20 or even £30 more and book girls that work for themselves. Usually (I don't mean always, there are obviously genuine agencies) girls like that are happy with the work they do and services they provide and want their clients happy!
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#17
(05-01-2013, 18:13)Forrest-gimp Wrote: Trinity-Belle, thanks for all that useful info. Very useful and something I will look into in before booking a girl that has zero feedback. On the subject of price etc I too think the same same as you if it is too of to be true then it probably is. All of my meetings have been booked or at least 1hr and some have been extended to upto 3 hours as we have both been having fun. Pricewisece i am usually happy to pay a fair price but I usually have a ceiling price of £180 per hour for I call. Lowest has been £100 per hour

Connie thanks for your input. For threading you stated I never book 1/2 hr only hr+ . So far I have fantastic meets expect 3 which have been good but just had restrictionis put on things we could do. Very frustrating as a client when you have booked for 1hr and girl says sorry only 1-2 cum and you're sitting there with raging hard on ready to go again, lol. I have so far put it down to learning. What amazes me is attitude from escort. 1st got paid fr hour, we had fun and I came with approx 1/2 hr left. She gets dressed and says she is leaving as I have cum!!!
Second girl was gorgeous but again only 1 cum allowed but she gave me refund and only charged for 1/2 hr ......weird or what. Both of them had zero FB
3rd girl was good fun we clicked and had a great laugh but again I used up my 2 orgasms within 40 minutes. She then loses interest and starts looking at her phone and even answers to a client nd makes a booking whilst I am still there!!! WTF!!! I got changed and left unimpressed by lack of proffesionalism

So why should I do ref FB.

But most girls have been great and time wizzes by as we bth have great fun. My fav always gets booked by me for 1 hr minimum but I always ask if I can stay longer. Sometimes I stay 2-3 hrs as we both have fun. Other times I leave after 1 hr as it was not so great for either of us and we could both sense that

Joe

Hi Joe,

I get an impression that you go to foreign girls (with no feedback, just to give them a 'chance') just so you can brag about how bad they were, oh those awfull foreign clockwatchers..! I'm sorry, but seriously? If you have such a bad experience with foreign girls then don't visit them! Simple as that..
Although your reasoning about their services is understandable, it seems to me that you just don't like foreign girls.. You do though like complaining about them..


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#18
I'm new so maybe naive but I just think that some of the problems you have had Forest-Gimp are shocking. It isn't good business sense as far as I'm concerned to advertise services that I don't enjoy and won't do - if I want repeat business, which I do, then of course I would perform what I agree to do. If I cannot garuntee an act then I make this clear at time of booking.
I also think that only allowing you to come once or twice is disgraceful - really! You pay for an hour, you get an hour - come as many times as you can.
Using their phone during your booking - how bloody rude. If I was client I would bloody well say so.
I just think it's a shame that some girls are not good at their job as I enjoy and take pride in my work. Unfortunatly, as with any profession - some people are just rubbish!
If I were you - I'd look for verification, feedback and field reports - as per my recent one which clearly shows that i do what I say on the tin !!! Just call me Ronseal!

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#19
(03-01-2013, 22:14)Forrest-gimp Wrote: 1. Arguing with the girl before getting down to business
2. Offending her
3. Getting into trouble with her "bouncer" . Never happened so far but you hear of so many horror stories
Joe

Welcome Joe, Forest Gimp...

Firstly I would suggest that you never argue with anybody, even if you are in the right, it does not start you off on a good footing and at this point it is probably best to leave

Foreign girls can be a problem, if they lack an understanding of English this can cause comunication problems. Always try and make sure that you have exressed what you require before you part with cash and that the girl is happy with that.

Do not feel thatyou can not walk from the situation should you not be happy and have not parted with any money. If you are not happy about having an hour then do offer to take half an hour, make some lame excuse about a meeting or something. If a girl turns funny about this then walk.

Feedback, being a personal service, the enjoyment you get from it may differ from others, I am not sure ths is as big an issue as others, if a girl has good feedback then you hope that this will be reflected in your time with her, if there is little or no feedback make your own judgements on how the comunication goes before meeting. I would recomend that you try and always speak on the phone before a meeting. I know some foreign girls only use text, this can cause a problem. But make sure that when you get there she understands and is happy with what you want. This does not mean it will happen, but it should in theory.

I do offer a time service, you pay for my time not to have sex with me, during that time I am yours to enjoy as you wish and happy for you to enjoy with me anything on my enjoy list. Of course it is a sexual service but it is not once you have cum you go, that is your choice.

Refunds.. this not open to discussion or negotiation unless I have to cancel or cut short the meeting. I have given a full refund when this has happend

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#20
[quote =StrawberryBlonde] "" SPs who operate deceitfully don't do any of us any favours, and sometimes whether or not this has been experienced it can also provide fodder for TWs in the form of continuous questions about services, "Is it really you in the photos?" going over and over details time and time again claiming to have been the victim of an unscrupulous SP. Whilst I've no doubt some will have been, I have the distinct feeling it is also abused so means genuine punters also then get a bit of a double whammy."" [/quote]


Good point !!!

Im pretty good at spotting TWs , but i do give benefit of the doubt when they say that other WGs havent delivered services advertised , and I have answered their questions. Some of them will turn up , the others not. So yes it does make things even more of a minefield for genuine punters.

Reagrding the OPs comment on been messed about by "foriegn " WGs .............
I read many punting forums and recentley have read a lot of bad reports on EEs. There are some very good EE escorts out there , but there are also a lot who are been exploited by men. The manager/pimps usually write the profiles and many times the female who answers the phone is not the female you see , of course the person on phone/email says "YES" to everything just to get you through the door and get your money! They rely on punters been too nervous to "walk" if things arent right or as advertised , which is understandable from the punters point of view if there are bouncer/security/pimp types hanging around. They also tend to move girls around the country a lot and constantley change names/profiles once they accrue negative feedback.

Theres also a hell of a lot of bad /rip-off english WGs out there , All you can do is research , research , research
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