Swinging

[Jeansman]

You are not missing out on anything special Mr.Smith..................

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You are not missing out on anything special Mr.Smith..................

u are def spot on there JM

[English Kate]

You are not missing out on anything special Mr.Smith..................

u are def spot on there JM

What makes you say that?

[Jeansman]

Thank-you Lolo - I speak from experience and a vast reservoir of cynicism,......

You are not missing out on anything special Mr.Smith..................

u are def spot on there JM

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Dead horse and flogging - certainly one expression that sums up my experience of Swinging. I have joined Swingers sites in the past, had e-mails expressing "interest" and a lot of farting and dancing around, but the bottom line was sweet f/a. Seems to be a great deal of effort for little or no reward whatsoever. It also appears that the whole scene is crammed with "single" guys chasing a few "available" ladies and alleged couples - I've seen more sex,lewdness and rudeness on Blue Peter.
The whole scene seems false to me and the only people getting anything out of it are the Website owners who bombard guys with "messages" from alleged females who would love to meet up in chatrooms, which are populated by 75 years old Ukrainian grannies, promising to insert all manner of things up themselves, including a spatchelor(true - one woman actually said to me she could do this).

All a bit much just after my tea and wheatybangs at 08.30 hours!
JM.

[Tom30]

Like i said, dating websites are a waste of time. To experience fun swinging you need to go to swinger clubs/parties, and its very hard to get into if youre a single man as theres loads of them, but its great when you have a girlfriend who likes it as well.

[English Kate]

sWINGING IS CHANGING, BUT IT IS NOT A LICENSE FOR FREE SEX FOR EVERYONE AND TRADITIONALLY IT WAS FOR COUPLes swapping with other couples, not for single men or ladies. Single ladies are able to muscle in on the fun, as there are not that many of them who want to do it, plus most seem to be bi, so they can fulfill a fantasy for many couples, where mail bisexuality on the whole is still not as socially acceptable. Therefore single men swinging really do find it harder to fit in, but once you have biult up a good reputation, the opportunities are endless.

Many single men find buddies to team up with and that can work very well.

[kenny m]

Or as the escort told me, there are some ways of making sure that people who attend a swing scene do get what they want, at a price, and she makes very good money for what time she is allowed to work there.

[Jeansman]

sounds like she has her head screwed on the right way around. Good for her.
JM.

[English Kate]

In my area it does not work like that. Chameleons does not employ escorts, so you can't do it there unless you find the client independently and take them there, so again not quite the same.

The private club in Birmingham employs escorts, but in my mind it is not a swinging club and the girls get paid very little in comparison to what you can get as an Escort working alone and then there is another club (can't remember the name)I think it is The Retro, that does employ Escorts, which is meant to be a combination of swinging and Escorts, but again I would never go there as a swinger, because I do not want anyone assuming they can touch me or mistake me for working. The girls I am told again, get very little in comparison, it is a fixed rate for the event, so doesn't matter how many she plays with, but she can't say no.

Personally putting my swinging head on, I don't think the two should mix, unless you are taking a client in and behaving like a couple, as in you do stuff together or at least stay together. Swinging is not about guaranteed sex, it's about being with like minded people and having new opportunities, being able to expand your sexual experiences and desires, when you meet people who are mutually attracted or at least with their consent.

[kenny m]

In the swinging club near me, the ladies who work elsewhere, but use that as place to pick up frustrated guys from, pay a set price fior the evening, and set about attracting guys on their own, and they can set their own price for what they charge.

during the day its a parlour, but none of the working ladies there are allowed to work there in the evenings when they have swinging nights!.