Bareback

[dlg79]

Whenever I search for an escort I always tick the Bareback and Unprotected Sex boxes as I would not even dream of seeing a girl if she didn't offer these services. I can hear a collective gasp! But in reality many many men like to have Bareback Sex with working girls regardless of the stories and one sided opinions on message boards.

We can all use a set of statistics in all walks of life with regards to almost any subject to back up our arguments, the statistics which I have read say that you can have Unprotected Sex with a HIV positive person and the risk of contracting HIV is around 10,000 - 1. This may seem relatively low risk on the face of it but I'm well aware you have as much chance of catching HIV from 1 encounter as you do from 10,000.

My point being us guys who enjoy Bareback will continue to do so as the chances of picking up the virus are as likely from a mainstream girl you meet in a bar as they are a working girl.

I have been enjoying Bareback Sex with working girls for over 5 years and as of my last blood test I was negative. I have had Bareback Sex with over 100 different girls the world over, I'm not here to gloryfy it, I'm just here to add some balance and another perspective to the debate.

It strikes me you're blatantly attempting to court controversy, rather than being motivated by any courage of conviction or having any genuine desire to represent an alternative view. This comic reaction anticipated from your imaginary 'crowd' as they let out a collective gasp, so shocked all us SEX WORKERS are at the sheer impact of your SEX STORY 'revelation', is a ridiculous fantasy; just utterly contrived. You make the entire post seem 'staged', 'set-up' even. The language and syntax are not only a little peculiar, but very feminine in compilation. The verbally antagonistic, Luddite attitude portrays an individual primed to take delight at the thought of their words resulting in an explosive reaction, real relish! This, though, does not marry with the vocabulary then used through out, to reference myself and others in prostitution as 'working girls', for example, or assimilate authenticity with claims of being here to 'add balance' and 'perspective'.

That aside, do remember you are corresponding with a community of sex workers and prostitutes, here, not a gaggle of 'mumsnetter's'. As such, do please catch up to speed with the rest of us that work in the 'action', day in, day out, to realise a few lackluster sentences from a random, ill-informed individual are as likely to prove a catalyst to any collective gasps of shock or amazement, as the most mundane fucking non-event ever! Oh, I dunno?! Let's plum for cliche, why don't we? You're orchestrated, calculated 'sex bomb' proved as gasp inducing as paint drying.

You are clearly either full of shit or, erm, full of shit and condescending with it.

Couldn't you have just said, you sound like a TROLL!..lol

[dandandan]

Whenever I search for an escort I always tick the Bareback and Unprotected Sex boxes as I would not even dream of seeing a girl if she didn't offer these services. I can hear a collective gasp! But in reality many many men like to have Bareback Sex with working girls regardless of the stories and one sided opinions on message boards.

We can all use a set of statistics in all walks of life with regards to almost any subject to back up our arguments, the statistics which I have read say that you can have Unprotected Sex with a HIV positive person and the risk of contracting HIV is around 10,000 - 1. This may seem relatively low risk on the face of it but I'm well aware you have as much chance of catching HIV from 1 encounter as you do from 10,000.

My point being us guys who enjoy Bareback will continue to do so as the chances of picking up the virus are as likely from a mainstream girl you meet in a bar as they are a working girl.

I have been enjoying Bareback Sex with working girls for over 5 years and as of my last blood test I was negative. I have had Bareback Sex with over 100 different girls the world over, I'm not here to gloryfy it, I'm just here to add some balance and another perspective to the debate.

It strikes me you're blatantly attempting to court controversy, rather than being motivated by any courage of conviction or having any genuine desire to represent an alternative view. This comic reaction anticipated from your imaginary 'crowd' as they let out a collective gasp, so shocked all us SEX WORKERS are at the sheer impact of your SEX STORY 'revelation', is a ridiculous fantasy; just utterly contrived. You make the entire post seem 'staged', 'set-up' even. The language and syntax are not only a little peculiar, but very feminine in compilation. The verbally antagonistic, Luddite attitude portrays an individual primed to take delight at the thought of their words resulting in an explosive reaction, real relish! This, though, does not marry with the vocabulary then used through out, to reference myself and others in prostitution as 'working girls', for example, or assimilate authenticity with claims of being here to 'add balance' and 'perspective'.

That aside, do remember you are corresponding with a community of sex workers and prostitutes, here, not a gaggle of 'mumsnetter's'. As such, do please catch up to speed with the rest of us that work in the 'action', day in, day out, to realise a few lackluster sentences from a random, ill-informed individual are as likely to prove a catalyst to any collective gasps of shock or amazement, as the most mundane fucking non-event ever! Oh, I dunno?! Let's plum for cliche, why don't we? You're orchestrated, calculated 'sex bomb' proved as gasp inducing as paint drying.

You are clearly either full of shit or, erm, full of shit and condescending with it.

I actually found this post from MissEsoteric very condescending and rude so I registered just to reply...

To offer another - what seems to be alternative view - on the subject: I have been engaging in unprotected sex with working girls since around 2001/2 so 12-ish years. I keep pretty good records and ive had unprotected sex with around 50 working girls, mostly one-offs but some multiple times, around 80 encounters in all Id say. I only see girls who offer unprotected sex. A girl offered it to me once and I was instantly addicted to that feeling. All of the girls bar around 5 were street workers in the London, UK area. In that time Ive had Gonnorreha 3 times and Thrush once.

The statistics Ive read/heard for HIV say through vaginal sex the odds are 500-1 if either party is positive , so actually much more risky than the "contrversial" poster said above. The stats suggest that if all 50 girls id slept with on those 80 occasions were HIV positive then I would still be quite unlikley to catch it. But I consider myself very lucky.

I wouldnt recommend doing bareback to either the girls or the punters. It feels great but so does injecting Heroin. Bareback sex is something I do which is like an addiction and has caused me a lot of pain in worry over the years. Ive taken PEP 3 times and spent weeks in agonising worry. But it doesnt really shock me when I see girls offer this service, it did when I first saw it years ago before I understood the odds, but the chances of them getting HIV from bareback vaginal sex are fairly low. What DOES shock me though is the people offering unprotected anal sex. The statistics for that are horrific: 1 in 3 chance for the recieving party if the giving party is HIV positive. It leads me to think that the girls and guys that offer receptive anal sex simply MUST be HIV positive or will be very soon.

To conclude: stay safe people, you can get away with it for a long time as I have but it could bite you at any moment. It could bite you the FIRST time you do it. The HIV drugs are fairly unpleasant and you dont want that in your life. Peace and bless you all.

PS. I am winding down from doing unprotected sex with working girls, I dont enjoy it as much as I used to, dare I say its getting boring. I would rather look for a loving relationship rather than just try to get inside every woman that breathes. I wouldnt recommend what Ive done with my life in the last 12 or 13 years to anyone. Stay safe.

[xKatieBabyx]

As an outsider's perspective, you're an idiot, whether you offer OR partake in bareback. Seriously.

[Trinity-Belle]

Thank you for your contribution dandandan... I think it's important to hear all sides, even if we disagree, we should never stifle debate or try to silence those who have alternative points of view. I particularly liked your "addiction" analogy!

However...

What DOES shock me though is the people offering unprotected anal sex. The statistics for that are horrific: 1 in 3 chance for the recieving party if the giving party is HIV positive.

Yea, that figure is way, way off the mark!

The actual incidence rate is thought to be 50 in 10,000 exposures for receptive anal intercourse.
(source: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml...1.htm#tab1)

So that is 0.5% or a 1 in 200 chance each time you have receptive anal sex with someone who is HIV+ not 1 in 3.

... the same data shows receptive vaginal intercourse to have a risk level of 0.1%, or 1 in 1000 exposures and insertive vaginal intercourse to be half that at 0.05% or 1 in 2000 exposures... remembering, of course, that an "exposure" is not sex with some random person, but specifically with someone who is HIV positive.


Worryingly, avert estimate that of all HIV infected men who engage in sexual activities with other men, about one quarter are unaware that they are infected. Even more worryingly, more than one third of men who have sex with men who know that they are infected admit to having had unprotected intercourse with more than one partner in the last year.
(source: http://www.avert.org/aids-uk.htm#contentTable1)

So it's all scary stuff! Nothing to be complacent about at all.

[HornyHeidiBush]

A while ago, someone posted a very worrying link to a forum where people were advocating the spread of AIDS, and were deliberately having sex with bareback escorts in an attempt to catch it. It made for a very depressing and worrying read.

Even if stds didn't exist, there would still be good reasons to use condoms, either with escorts of in your personal life. Besides a vasectomy, which is obviously a very permanent option, there are no other methods of contraception that a man can use. Not all women want to take pills every day, have injections, or other invasive procedures. Condoms can be annoying, but for some people are preferable compared to the unpleasant side effects that can be caused by other forms of contraception.

[GloryHoleCumSlut]

I have only been on Adultwork for a week but have already had three guys contact me by e-mail asking if I would do Bareback. After replying in no uncertain terms that I would never offer this service one actually got abusive to me. This I found totally amazing, not just his lack of common sense but the fact that he had a go at me because I didn't share his views on the subject.

No matter what the statistics say having unprotected sex carries a higher risk to both parties than using a condom and in this line of business it seems to me to be common sense to protect my assets by using them. As a service provider it is a way of protecting myself and my customers.

[MissEsoteric]

Whenever I search for an escort I always tick the Bareback and Unprotected Sex boxes as I would not even dream of seeing a girl if she didn't offer these services. I can hear a collective gasp! But in reality many many men like to have Bareback Sex with working girls regardless of the stories and one sided opinions on message boards.

We can all use a set of statistics in all walks of life with regards to almost any subject to back up our arguments, the statistics which I have read say that you can have Unprotected Sex with a HIV positive person and the risk of contracting HIV is around 10,000 - 1. This may seem relatively low risk on the face of it but I'm well aware you have as much chance of catching HIV from 1 encounter as you do from 10,000.

My point being us guys who enjoy Bareback will continue to do so as the chances of picking up the virus are as likely from a mainstream girl you meet in a bar as they are a working girl.

I have been enjoying Bareback Sex with working girls for over 5 years and as of my last blood test I was negative. I have had Bareback Sex with over 100 different girls the world over, I'm not here to gloryfy it, I'm just here to add some balance and another perspective to the debate.

It strikes me you're blatantly attempting to court controversy, rather than being motivated by any courage of conviction or having any genuine desire to represent an alternative view. This comic reaction anticipated from your imaginary 'crowd' as they let out a collective gasp, so shocked all us SEX WORKERS are at the sheer impact of your SEX STORY 'revelation', is a ridiculous fantasy; just utterly contrived. You make the entire post seem 'staged', 'set-up' even. The language and syntax are not only a little peculiar, but very feminine in compilation. The verbally antagonistic, Luddite attitude portrays an individual primed to take delight at the thought of their words resulting in an explosive reaction, real relish! This, though, does not marry with the vocabulary then used through out, to reference myself and others in prostitution as 'working girls', for example, or assimilate authenticity with claims of being here to 'add balance' and 'perspective'.

That aside, do remember you are corresponding with a community of sex workers and prostitutes, here, not a gaggle of 'mumsnetter's'. As such, do please catch up to speed with the rest of us that work in the 'action', day in, day out, to realise a few lackluster sentences from a random, ill-informed individual are as likely to prove a catalyst to any collective gasps of shock or amazement, as the most mundane fucking non-event ever! Oh, I dunno?! Let's plum for cliche, why don't we? You're orchestrated, calculated 'sex bomb' proved as gasp inducing as paint drying.

You are clearly either full of shit or, erm, full of shit and condescending with it.

Couldn't you have just said, you sound like a TROLL!..lol

Couldn't you just have said, erm........nothing? Replacing any post content with sentiments such as; "......you're a fucking troll....." and other meaningless, contrived, tired, worn out, unimaginative, quips, does not appear, to me, to be a suggestion of anywhere near enough authority, to warrant your self appointment as forum post police. Why not concern yourself with offering something better or something of quality to the thread and forum at large, instead?

[Trinity-Belle]

Blimey Miss E!

I thought he was being supportive!

[Bareback Rider]

Miss Esoteric I apologise for coming across as femenine, and i also apologise for my poor spelling, punctuation and grammer etc.

You say I am full of shit but everything I wrote in my original post is true, I understand it may be uncomfortable reading for many but I assure you it is the truth. Admittedly I should not have worded my post in the way that I did, and yes after reading it back it does come across as if I was blatantly trying to court controversy, especially the 'collective gasp' comment. I am not looking for an argument, just debate.

I still stand by what I said, I am not boasting, I have had Bareback Vaginal Sex with many women all over the world, I have caught Chlamydia and Gonorrhea on several occassions, one time I was put on a drip in hospital. As you are probably aware health professionals usually treat both Chlamydia and Gonorrhea concurrently as the symptoms are very similar, 1-2 grams of Azithromycin and 400-800mg Cefixime and/or an Intramuscular injection of Ceftiaxone.

Also I will not refer to sex workers as working girls here on in as this also seems to offend you, Prostitute, Hooker etc can now be used.

Where I feel that you are out of line is in your aggressive reply, swearing unnecessarily. You mention that I come across as condescending, that was never my intention, as others have noted your post was condescending. We are all entitled to our opinion but it would be nice to keep things civil.

The reason I dragged up an old thread was because when I typed 'Bareback' into the search bar suprisingly only 1 result was returned (This thread) so I decided to add a post to this thread rather than start a new thread as many message boards/forums prefer not to have new threads created when the subject is already covered.

I have noticed a big increase in the number of girls from Eastern Europe (Romania, Hungary etc) who have registered on Adultwork that are offering Bareback and at very reasonable prices (£60-£110 per hour) I was automatically suspicious, I guessed that most of these profiles were fake, but to my pleasant suprise the majority are genuine and the girls offer a very good GFE, only last night I visited a very nice girl off Adultwork who I wrongly assumed was Romanian, yet she turned out to be Spanish, around 40 years of age, voluptuous figure, spoke reasonable English and provided an amazing service, all services without although she would not allow come inside, instead she insisted I cum in her mouth. I have never felt so comfortable in the company of a Prostitute, we kissed, cuddled chatted, had sex twice, and even though I paid for an hour (£100) we spent over an hour and a half having fun, no clock watching at all and she genuinely seemed to be enjoying herself, yet I am not so naive as to believe that this could be an act.

Personally speaking when people say that they provide a girlfriend experience and then insist on using a condom this could be construed as false advertising, Girlfriends do not insist on making there Boyfriends where protection. But that debate is for another time.

I really hope if you do post a reply it is not done in anger. I did notice that you scolded another member who suggested that I was a troll.,

I always get tested after any Bareback encounters so to minimise the risk of me passing on any STD's. I do not have a wife or a girlfriend, if I did then I would not seek out the services of professionals.

I hope I haven't missed anything.

Stay safe.

[Anita ~ britishmilf]

Girlfriends do not insist on making there Boyfriends where protection. But that debate is for another time.

I have just come out of a 3 year relationship and we used condoms, and i will continue to do so until i get married, which is never going to happen as im not the marrying kind! Never had a bf thats had a problem with using condoms, but then i only date sensible intelligent men