26-07-2021, 13:28
Message comes from group Adultwork Boudoir Webcammers 24049 and group manager Bubble_Butt_Latina 5616111
Message is as follows:
"Hi hun,
I hope you are well
As from Wednesday 21st July the payment rules if you have noticed
So I was just reaching out to see if you were interested in joining my group
if you want to join my group i can offer you more than you get from AW when you aren't in the group so you do not loose out on any money by joining let me know if you are interested in discussing more
Feel free to check out my page to see that I am legitimate - I was one of the webcammer of the year winners and I have got 872 feedback in just over one year
I help all of my members maximise their earnings with most making over 500-1000 credits per day xxx
Love from Bubble_Butt_Latina xxx
P.S.
Have a look at my private gallery and movies in the meantime whilst awaiting my reply (or leave me feedback for a free video- we would have has to have had a session over 4 minutes for this)
Add me to your hotlist for updates on when I am online and have uploaded new content"
The following parts are simply not right:
- "if you want to join my group i can offer you more than you get from AW when you aren't in the group so you do not loose out on any money by joining"
The rules did change regarding VAT on the 21st, what does this mean for AW members, for UK members, nothing changes, for outside the UK local VAT may apply, cost of this VAT? Around 6% (varies but not above 6%), cost of joining this group which claims to pay more? 10%. In all circumstance you will be charged more than directly via AW.
Always do your homework before joining a group on AW (any group). At a glance some other oddities on the group homepage are:
- "VAT REGISTERED COMPANY" - what does this matter? UK members dont pay VAT and as the group is registered in the UK neither would any other world members, its null and void.
- "This group is on the featured groups page at the top every day without fail!" - yet when we check today they arernt showing (nearly all days they do not show).
- "ALL MEMBERS ARE BRITISH AND VERIFIED" - both not true, scroll their the members and click on a few profiles to find them.
- "- Join For Free!" - always a classic, join for free but if you earn we take 10%. Its like a shop saying come in the store for free but if you want anything you have to pay.
- "- We aim to be the first on the FEATURED groups page every day (if not first top slot, we get second every time meaning when clients click on this page the group is one of the first to be seen!)" - doesnt make sense, when you feature and someone loads the page its a random selection, also they dont show on the groups page most days.
-"- This is not an agency it is a friends and cooperative group meaning we do not take large percentages of your credits, you will not find a cheaper group!" - literally dozens of cheaper groups.
-"- You can get your credits FASTER than any other group offering on demand! I offer instant on demand meaning you can get paid in the same hour as asking for the cheapest fee around!" - faster payout groups exist, one hour is good but dont claim to be the fastest.
-"We offer daily payout services for FREE" - another one completely untrue, scammy and down right insulting to the industry.
-"- Free Daily Payout
- Free Weekly Payout
- Free Payout on Request (On Demand on the day you request before cut off points 3pm and midnight)
- On Demand Payout at any hour even 3am if you need it for a small fee" - service is not free at all, its 10%, if you want an On Demand payment its 10%+ an additional fee.
-"- Instant Access to your Credits and No Minimum Amount Required To Transfer" - group terms state there is a minimum.
-"- TWO Daily Payments by 3pm and midnight- Paid On Time EVERY DAY WITHOUT FAIL (all other groups do one per day)" - sounds like they are doing group transfers for dailypay, this of course isnt dailypay then as you have to wait 24hours for the credits to mature before this option can be used.
-"- Free Advertising on Groups Page FEATURED DAILY and GROUP OF THE DAY Regularly" - untrue, not on the group homepage and they are also not group of the day, history page shows they havent been group of the days for the past 30 days at least, https://www.adultwork.com/MemberOfTheDay...e.asp?S=GR
-"- One Week Featured On Our Group Page For Each New Member" - contradicts the above, how can a new member be featured for a week on a page that only has 4 slots and when they also state the top 4 earners get the 4 slots, it doesnt make any sense.
-"- No unfair or unjust treatment to our members" - this really means, we'll treat you right but secretly take 10% of your earnings and not feature you at all.
Their FAQ states:
Q: What are the payout rules on this group? No Minimum amount needed for payout - Daily: TWO PER DAY (More than any other group) 3pm and Midnight - Weekly: MIDNIGHT Thursday
-" - we already know its not dailypay and why only 1 day per week for weeklypay? Why not the 7 days of the week like other groups.
-"Q: Why do I have to give you my password to join? A: This is the way all group managers have to add members to groups" - not true, if the group manager knew the AW systems in and out like they claim they would know this isnt true, there are 2 other methods to add a member.
-"Why did you want to make the group? What is the catch?
One of my members recently said to me this group sounds like it is too good to be true, what's the catch? There is absolutely no ulterior motive! As a well established webcammer myself I felt the need to create an ethically run group in order to have a support network for girls like myself and to help other webcammers/ escorts with maximising their earnings and making connections within the industry." - the catch is you have to pay for the service, you do not make more via them, in fact you make 10% less, one of the more expensive groups on AW.
-"Q: Do you offer a referral scheme or cash incentives to join? A: No and the reason being is I started this group with a few of my friends from the industry and it is mainly growing from referrals. The reason certain groups offer cash incentives to join is because they take large commissions of your credits, which I would never dream of doing as a webcammer myself I know how much hard work goes into it. The only difference is you have access to the money in your bank account faster!" - does 10% not qualify as taking a large cut? The only difference is faster access to funds? What about the difference in %?
Some group pages make have a slight error by accident or maybe old information but the above qualifies as a scam on Adultwork, if unsure about a group on AW, ask a friend, forums, twitter etc
Lastly, for a group manager who claims to know everything on AW, they dont know the rules, poaching members or mass spamming members on AW is a punishable offence, if the group is breaking the rules all accounts linked to the group are in jeopardy.
Message is as follows:
"Hi hun,
I hope you are well
As from Wednesday 21st July the payment rules if you have noticed
So I was just reaching out to see if you were interested in joining my group
if you want to join my group i can offer you more than you get from AW when you aren't in the group so you do not loose out on any money by joining let me know if you are interested in discussing more
Feel free to check out my page to see that I am legitimate - I was one of the webcammer of the year winners and I have got 872 feedback in just over one year
I help all of my members maximise their earnings with most making over 500-1000 credits per day xxx
Love from Bubble_Butt_Latina xxx
P.S.
Have a look at my private gallery and movies in the meantime whilst awaiting my reply (or leave me feedback for a free video- we would have has to have had a session over 4 minutes for this)
Add me to your hotlist for updates on when I am online and have uploaded new content"
The following parts are simply not right:
- "if you want to join my group i can offer you more than you get from AW when you aren't in the group so you do not loose out on any money by joining"
The rules did change regarding VAT on the 21st, what does this mean for AW members, for UK members, nothing changes, for outside the UK local VAT may apply, cost of this VAT? Around 6% (varies but not above 6%), cost of joining this group which claims to pay more? 10%. In all circumstance you will be charged more than directly via AW.
Always do your homework before joining a group on AW (any group). At a glance some other oddities on the group homepage are:
- "VAT REGISTERED COMPANY" - what does this matter? UK members dont pay VAT and as the group is registered in the UK neither would any other world members, its null and void.
- "This group is on the featured groups page at the top every day without fail!" - yet when we check today they arernt showing (nearly all days they do not show).
- "ALL MEMBERS ARE BRITISH AND VERIFIED" - both not true, scroll their the members and click on a few profiles to find them.
- "- Join For Free!" - always a classic, join for free but if you earn we take 10%. Its like a shop saying come in the store for free but if you want anything you have to pay.
- "- We aim to be the first on the FEATURED groups page every day (if not first top slot, we get second every time meaning when clients click on this page the group is one of the first to be seen!)" - doesnt make sense, when you feature and someone loads the page its a random selection, also they dont show on the groups page most days.
-"- This is not an agency it is a friends and cooperative group meaning we do not take large percentages of your credits, you will not find a cheaper group!" - literally dozens of cheaper groups.
-"- You can get your credits FASTER than any other group offering on demand! I offer instant on demand meaning you can get paid in the same hour as asking for the cheapest fee around!" - faster payout groups exist, one hour is good but dont claim to be the fastest.
-"We offer daily payout services for FREE" - another one completely untrue, scammy and down right insulting to the industry.
-"- Free Daily Payout
- Free Weekly Payout
- Free Payout on Request (On Demand on the day you request before cut off points 3pm and midnight)
- On Demand Payout at any hour even 3am if you need it for a small fee" - service is not free at all, its 10%, if you want an On Demand payment its 10%+ an additional fee.
-"- Instant Access to your Credits and No Minimum Amount Required To Transfer" - group terms state there is a minimum.
-"- TWO Daily Payments by 3pm and midnight- Paid On Time EVERY DAY WITHOUT FAIL (all other groups do one per day)" - sounds like they are doing group transfers for dailypay, this of course isnt dailypay then as you have to wait 24hours for the credits to mature before this option can be used.
-"- Free Advertising on Groups Page FEATURED DAILY and GROUP OF THE DAY Regularly" - untrue, not on the group homepage and they are also not group of the day, history page shows they havent been group of the days for the past 30 days at least, https://www.adultwork.com/MemberOfTheDay...e.asp?S=GR
-"- One Week Featured On Our Group Page For Each New Member" - contradicts the above, how can a new member be featured for a week on a page that only has 4 slots and when they also state the top 4 earners get the 4 slots, it doesnt make any sense.
-"- No unfair or unjust treatment to our members" - this really means, we'll treat you right but secretly take 10% of your earnings and not feature you at all.
Their FAQ states:
Q: What are the payout rules on this group? No Minimum amount needed for payout - Daily: TWO PER DAY (More than any other group) 3pm and Midnight - Weekly: MIDNIGHT Thursday
-" - we already know its not dailypay and why only 1 day per week for weeklypay? Why not the 7 days of the week like other groups.
-"Q: Why do I have to give you my password to join? A: This is the way all group managers have to add members to groups" - not true, if the group manager knew the AW systems in and out like they claim they would know this isnt true, there are 2 other methods to add a member.
-"Why did you want to make the group? What is the catch?
One of my members recently said to me this group sounds like it is too good to be true, what's the catch? There is absolutely no ulterior motive! As a well established webcammer myself I felt the need to create an ethically run group in order to have a support network for girls like myself and to help other webcammers/ escorts with maximising their earnings and making connections within the industry." - the catch is you have to pay for the service, you do not make more via them, in fact you make 10% less, one of the more expensive groups on AW.
-"Q: Do you offer a referral scheme or cash incentives to join? A: No and the reason being is I started this group with a few of my friends from the industry and it is mainly growing from referrals. The reason certain groups offer cash incentives to join is because they take large commissions of your credits, which I would never dream of doing as a webcammer myself I know how much hard work goes into it. The only difference is you have access to the money in your bank account faster!" - does 10% not qualify as taking a large cut? The only difference is faster access to funds? What about the difference in %?
Some group pages make have a slight error by accident or maybe old information but the above qualifies as a scam on Adultwork, if unsure about a group on AW, ask a friend, forums, twitter etc
Lastly, for a group manager who claims to know everything on AW, they dont know the rules, poaching members or mass spamming members on AW is a punishable offence, if the group is breaking the rules all accounts linked to the group are in jeopardy.
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