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(26-02-2013, 18:22)Bareback Rider Wrote: Whenever I search for an escort I always tick the Bareback and Unprotected Sex boxes as I would not even dream of seeing a girl if she didn't offer these services. I can hear a collective gasp! But in reality many many men like to have Bareback Sex with working girls regardless of the stories and one sided opinions on message boards.

We can all use a set of statistics in all walks of life with regards to almost any subject to back up our arguments, the statistics which I have read say that you can have Unprotected Sex with a HIV positive person and the risk of contracting HIV is around 10,000 - 1. This may seem relatively low risk on the face of it but I'm well aware you have as much chance of catching HIV from 1 encounter as you do from 10,000.

My point being us guys who enjoy Bareback will continue to do so as the chances of picking up the virus are as likely from a mainstream girl you meet in a bar as they are a working girl.

I have been enjoying Bareback Sex with working girls for over 5 years and as of my last blood test I was negative. I have had Bareback Sex with over 100 different girls the world over, I'm not here to gloryfy it, I'm just here to add some balance and another perspective to the debate.

No.. it's quite clearly higher if you have unprotected sex with a working girl who offers bareback than a girl you meet in a bar or whatever.. Say a wg (who offers bareback) sees 1 guy per week and has bareback sex with them.. that's over 50 different sexual partners in a year. Now do you seriously think majority of girls you meet who are not sex workers have unprotected sex with over 50 blokes in a year?

You're crazy.. welldone not getting anything so far but you're playing russian roulette and i sincerely hope you don't have unprotected sex with your girlfriend/partner and expose them to all sorts of nasties you could have contracted.
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#42
Well, I'm not from the camp which says that your sin is worse than my sin, so I'm not going to criticise you for the activities you, as an adult, choose to participate in with other adults who are doing so of their own free will.

What does concern me a little, though, is that because it is a niche which is hard to find, it is attractive for pimps who are coercing girls to offer that in order to capture the bareback dollar. Coerced girls often work in areas of the market place which others tend to steer clear of. That, I think, bothers me more than whether or not you are actually using a condom.

There is a certain amount of herd protection... those of use who are involved in this business are a fairly closed circle. I know it sounds a bit weird, but it's just the way it works.... protect the majority and the unprotected benefit from the protection of the rest. It's to do with the infection index or "basic reproduction number", which in the case of HIV is very, very low. So long as about 85% of guys and girls are using protection, the whole population is pretty safe.

Sadly, although probably 85% or more of people in our little universe are using protection, that is far from true out in the real world where the message has become lost and people have become a bit complacent.

In 2011 there were 6,280 new diagnoses in the UK, so it's not at all trivial!

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(source: http://www.avert.org/uk-statistics.htm )

And HIV is not the only risk, of course... just the most certain of resulting in a negative outcome!

For a lot of girls, chlamydia is even more of a worry. Guys aren't to bothered about it because it is usually pretty asymptomatic for them... but for girls, a single untreated chlamydia infection or repeated exposure to it can result in sterility... and chlamydia is rife with more than 120,000 diagnoses per annum.

There are all kinds of reasons not to do it.

If you know all of that and you choose to do it anyway, and you are certain in your own mind that the girl is acting under her own free will, then so long as you are prepared to accept responsibility for any potential outcome and you are not putting your wife/partner at risk then who am I to judge?

At least, if nothing else, you are getting tested... which lets face it, most men do not!
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#43
its scary the amount of girls offering that service here - i will not see a client who even asks - don't want to be infecting my throat with something they've picked up from someone.

gents who ask for this or go for this service seem to have no clue about the risks to themselves and their wives/partners.
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#44
I met up with a girl in a hotel early one morning and was offered bareback which i turned down, she then asked if ide ever double dipped, "a phrase ide never heard of" and she said she'd get her bloke from the room next door to do the business and finish inside, then let me poke around and play in it. EEEWW, i felt sick at that point and then made my excuses and left. No activities were partaken in, and no money exchanged. Not my scene I'm affriad.
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Yuck. Sad
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#46
(26-02-2013, 18:22)Bareback Rider Wrote: Whenever I search for an escort I always tick the Bareback and Unprotected Sex boxes as I would not even dream of seeing a girl if she didn't offer these services. I can hear a collective gasp! But in reality many many men like to have Bareback Sex with working girls regardless of the stories and one sided opinions on message boards.

We can all use a set of statistics in all walks of life with regards to almost any subject to back up our arguments, the statistics which I have read say that you can have Unprotected Sex with a HIV positive person and the risk of contracting HIV is around 10,000 - 1. This may seem relatively low risk on the face of it but I'm well aware you have as much chance of catching HIV from 1 encounter as you do from 10,000.

My point being us guys who enjoy Bareback will continue to do so as the chances of picking up the virus are as likely from a mainstream girl you meet in a bar as they are a working girl.


I have been enjoying Bareback Sex with working girls for over 5 years and as of my last blood test I was negative. I have had Bareback Sex with over 100 different girls the world over, I'm not here to gloryfy it, I'm just here to add some balance and another perspective to the debate.

Trawling through threads that are nearly 2 years old and then posting a controversial response hmm trying to get a rise me thinks you carry on with your bareback activities and lets see who is still posting here years down the line what you will find is us girls with self respect would not entertain as this industry if you are wise to it is a whole lot safer than the 10 to 2 girlds desperate in a night club looking for a shag

Fill your boots hun!


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#47
Surely offering bareback puts as many guys off as it attracts?Add to this the health, hygiene and discretion risks and it just isn't something I'm interested in.

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#48


Ive had arrangement with an escort in the past, but only under a "regular" deal, where we initially both shown each other proof we're clean, and id have to visit her at least twice every week (so i went with 30 minute bookings) as her idea of making sure i dont (or minimise the chance of) have enough money to spend on other girls. She assured me, i could see it in her eyes amd the way she said it that she wouldnt do BB with anyone else, just so long as i stayed by our agreement that id visit her that much.

She was completely honest about everything. I mean, like after 2 or 3 months she said she had been offered more than what i was paying her for our arrangement. She said i can continue BB if i want - as we had built up quite a lot of trust for each other, but to be honest i was a little bored of her anyway so we said our goodbyes.

So if done somewhat sensibly then its ok.
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I dont think this is as sensible as you think.
As far as I know, the hiv virus may not show up in tests for 3 months, rape victims are offered a test and advised to take another 3 months later. You or her could have had a "clean sheet" via test taken on "12th never" but slept with someone with the virus or any other virus,the day before or the day after

"i could see it in her eyes and the way she said it " She is an escort and if a decent one she specialises in making you feel special. I can honestly say ive had half a dozen clients at least say to me, that they know "they are different" . Id be willing to bet a large amount of money that if she was having bb sex with you, she was with other clients too, but she isnt going to tell you that.
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(28-02-2013, 13:22)britishmilf Wrote: As far as I know, the hiv virus may not show up in tests for 3 months

It depends what kind of test they do... whether it is an antibody or an antigen test.

The modern antigen tests (used in all NHS facilities for about 5 years now) shows a positive in as little as two weeks, although they recommend that you leave it 3 or 4 weeks after a possible exposure to prevent false negatives.

(28-02-2013, 13:22)britishmilf Wrote: "i could see it in her eyes and the way she said it " She is an escort and if a decent one she specialises in making you feel special.

Totally... every single client who comes to see me should feel special... like he is the only one. That's what i aim for, at least!

(28-02-2013, 13:22)britishmilf Wrote: Id be willing to bet a large amount of money that if she was having bb sex with you, she was with other clients too, but she isnt going to tell you that.

Yup, me too.

It's a hook, and she kept you dangling on it!

.... and you almost certainly weren't the only one.
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(26-02-2013, 18:22)Bareback Rider Wrote: Whenever I search for an escort I always tick the Bareback and Unprotected Sex boxes as I would not even dream of seeing a girl if she didn't offer these services. I can hear a collective gasp! But in reality many many men like to have Bareback Sex with working girls regardless of the stories and one sided opinions on message boards.

We can all use a set of statistics in all walks of life with regards to almost any subject to back up our arguments, the statistics which I have read say that you can have Unprotected Sex with a HIV positive person and the risk of contracting HIV is around 10,000 - 1. This may seem relatively low risk on the face of it but I'm well aware you have as much chance of catching HIV from 1 encounter as you do from 10,000.

My point being us guys who enjoy Bareback will continue to do so as the chances of picking up the virus are as likely from a mainstream girl you meet in a bar as they are a working girl.

I have been enjoying Bareback Sex with working girls for over 5 years and as of my last blood test I was negative. I have had Bareback Sex with over 100 different girls the world over, I'm not here to gloryfy it, I'm just here to add some balance and another perspective to the debate.



It strikes me you're blatantly attempting to court controversy, rather than being motivated by any courage of conviction or having any genuine desire to represent an alternative view. This comic reaction anticipated from your imaginary 'crowd' as they let out a collective gasp, so shocked all us SEX WORKERS are at the sheer impact of your SEX STORY 'revelation', is a ridiculous fantasy; just utterly contrived. You make the entire post seem 'staged', 'set-up' even. The language and syntax are not only a little peculiar, but very feminine in compilation. The verbally antagonistic, Luddite attitude portrays an individual primed to take delight at the thought of their words resulting in an explosive reaction, real relish! This, though, does not marry with the vocabulary then used through out, to reference myself and others in prostitution as 'working girls', for example, or assimilate authenticity with claims of being here to 'add balance' and 'perspective'.

That aside, do remember you are corresponding with a community of sex workers and prostitutes, here, not a gaggle of 'mumsnetter's'. As such, do please catch up to speed with the rest of us that work in the 'action', day in, day out, to realise a few lackluster sentences from a random, ill-informed individual are as likely to prove a catalyst to any collective gasps of shock or amazement, as the most mundane fucking non-event ever! Oh, I dunno?! Let's plum for cliche, why don't we? You're orchestrated, calculated 'sex bomb' Wink proved as gasp inducing as paint drying.

You are clearly either full of shit or, erm, full of shit and condescending with it.

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