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#21
Ditto I think the same.
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#22
We can all learn from each other and diversify. I hate being put in a box and refuse to conform to one thing. If the mood takes me I will make changes and it is far better to make informed changes, than start something from scratch with no prior knowledge.

There is also the aspect of understanding. The more we know about each other and the way our work goes, the more we will (in most cases) respect each other and not make assumptions about each other. It can only be a good thing.
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#23
(21-11-2011, 17:40)Laudanum Wrote: My only issue is with streetwalkers, and not because they're streetwalkers, we need to be helping to get them off the streets to safety, stamping out their abusive pimps, and dealing with whatever habit they've got to put them there in the first place. They need our help, not our revulsion. If brothels were legalised or even decriminalised, then it would go a long way to dealing with that, especially if they were regulated.

Anyway, I'm trying not to sound ranty.

I think you make an excellent point. Personally I would never see a streetwalker, quite apart from the risks. It seems so unnecessary it is not that difficult to set up on Adultwork - and why the heck should girls have to pay low life controlling pimps.

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#24
(22-11-2011, 00:21)Nick Meanswell Wrote:
(21-11-2011, 17:40)Laudanum Wrote: My only issue is with streetwalkers, and not because they're streetwalkers, we need to be helping to get them off the streets to safety, stamping out their abusive pimps, and dealing with whatever habit they've got to put them there in the first place. They need our help, not our revulsion. If brothels were legalised or even decriminalised, then it would go a long way to dealing with that, especially if they were regulated.

Anyway, I'm trying not to sound ranty.

I think you make an excellent point. Personally I would never see a streetwalker, quite apart from the risks. It seems so unnecessary it is not that difficult to set up on Adultwork - and why the heck should girls have to pay low life controlling pimps.

Thank you.

You'll probably find most of the girls who are streetwalking, are either there to support their own drug habit, or someone else's. Some of them have been bullied into it for other reason, and some are there because they might have been trafficked, and some might be there to feed themselves because they're homeless. It's quite unlikely that a streetwalker will be out there just because she wants to be. This is why they need our help.
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(22-11-2011, 00:32)Laudanum Wrote: Thank you.

You'll probably find most of the girls who are streetwalking, are either there to support their own drug habit, or someone else's. Some of them have been bullied into it for other reason, and some are there because they might have been trafficked, and some might be there to feed themselves because they're homeless. It's quite unlikely that a streetwalker will be out there just because she wants to be. This is why they need our help.

This should probably go into a separate thread now - but does anyone have any ideas what could be done to help them - It's probably dangerous territory, but it seems to be getting to be a bigger and bigger problem, and it discredits the decent end of the industry.

In fact if the seedy end of the market was wiped out, there would be a far better chance of legalising the decent side, which in my opinion is actually an excellent social service, if only it could be recognised and accepted as such.
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#26
Re. separate forums for different providers, I agree with Laudanum, it feels much less inclusive with the threads segregated. I started camming before going into escorting, and I would have missed so much banter and learning.
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(22-11-2011, 00:56)SassyAnn Wrote: Re. separate forums for different providers, I agree with Laudanum, it feels much less inclusive with the threads segregated. I started camming before going into escorting, and I would have missed so much banter and learning.

Bingo.
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(22-11-2011, 00:49)Nick Meanswell Wrote:
(22-11-2011, 00:32)Laudanum Wrote: Thank you.

You'll probably find most of the girls who are streetwalking, are either there to support their own drug habit, or someone else's. Some of them have been bullied into it for other reason, and some are there because they might have been trafficked, and some might be there to feed themselves because they're homeless. It's quite unlikely that a streetwalker will be out there just because she wants to be. This is why they need our help.

This should probably go into a separate thread now - but does anyone have any ideas what could be done to help them - It's probably dangerous territory, but it seems to be getting to be a bigger and bigger problem, and it discredits the decent end of the industry.

In fact if the seedy end of the market was wiped out, there would be a far better chance of legalising the decent side, which in my opinion is actually an excellent social service, if only it could be recognised and accepted as such.

The problem is mostly people's personal moral compass, the fact that lots of people don't give a shit, and also people don't care about what happens to people who are drug abusers, whether they did it to themselves, or it was done to them. Resources already helping these people, are stretched terribly thin.
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#29
(22-11-2011, 00:49)Nick Meanswell Wrote:
(22-11-2011, 00:32)Laudanum Wrote: Thank you.

You'll probably find most of the girls who are streetwalking, are either there to support their own drug habit, or someone else's. Some of them have been bullied into it for other reason, and some are there because they might have been trafficked, and some might be there to feed themselves because they're homeless. It's quite unlikely that a streetwalker will be out there just because she wants to be. This is why they need our help.

This should probably go into a separate thread now - but does anyone have any ideas what could be done to help them - It's probably dangerous territory, but it seems to be getting to be a bigger and bigger problem, and it discredits the decent end of the industry.

In fact if the seedy end of the market was wiped out, there would be a far better chance of legalising the decent side, which in my opinion is actually an excellent social service, if only it could be recognised and accepted as such.

Dangerous territory and practically impossible territory. The complexity of each and every case would be astounding... To help girls who are streetwalkers, you would have to deconstruct issues surrounding addictions, organised crime, trafficking, importing and exporting of illicit substances, illegal weapons, homelessness, mental illness, abuse, violence and the list goes on.

Moreso, these girls have got to WANT the help... Which you might find is already out there in one way or another, and is just not being used.

Where would the 'help' come from? Who has the resources to deal with all of the above and more? Pretty much no-one, which is the worst part of it all. You can throw as much money as you want at trying to eradicate streetwalkers and their pimps and everything else that surrounds them... But it's ultimately not going to be enough without people with time and patience and resources of their own to facillitate.

It's unfortunate... But I certainly don't have either the desire, time, or resources at my disposal to help in any real way. I'm not sure I know anyone who does...
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(22-11-2011, 01:25)DivineMissG Wrote: Dangerous territory and practically impossible territory. The complexity of each and every case would be astounding... To help girls who are streetwalkers, you would have to deconstruct issues surrounding addictions, organised crime, trafficking, importing and exporting of illicit substances, illegal weapons, homelessness, mental illness, abuse, violence and the list goes on.

Moreso, these girls have got to WANT the help... Which you might find is already out there in one way or another, and is just not being used.

Where would the 'help' come from? Who has the resources to deal with all of the above and more? Pretty much no-one, which is the worst part of it all. You can throw as much money as you want at trying to eradicate streetwalkers and their pimps and everything else that surrounds them... But it's ultimately not going to be enough without people with time and patience and resources of their own to facillitate.

It's unfortunate... But I certainly don't have either the desire, time, or resources at my disposal to help in any real way. I'm not sure I know anyone who does...

Sadly you're absolutely right - a magic wand would be quite handy, but anything short of that doesn't stand a hope in hell of succeeding.
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