A lot of frustration

[Strawberryblonde]

Where ever I work I do not run bookings back to back, least of all hotels and I have missed calls sometimes I've nipped to the loo, or have been on a phone call which takes longer than expected.

[Ana_X]

this kind of thing has been tried but as soon as punters become aware of it the wg concerned will see a big drop in business.

Careful nova, you're sounding a bit UKP there. My own personal outlook is that I'd rather see a handful of clients for the right reasons than masses of them for the wrong. The lady in question has set up her own system to make herself feel secure, nobody has the right to tell her to ignore that and give the prospective client what they want. The client has no right to her service, just as she has no obligation to carry out any pre agreed service if she gets even the slightest inclination that things don't feel right about someone.

And you think her system is tough? Here's mine (granted I'm not an escort, but I still allow people to meet me alone) .

1) I get a call (witheld numbers are rejected) asking if I'm available, we have a LONG discussion about what does NOT go on here, we discuss MY personal limits (no touching of me, no nudity on my part, no intimate body contact or any form of sex) and then his personal limits (for example, no knives, needles, scat), what his primary interest is in terms of fetishes/activities etc.

If his primary interest is focused around him having a wank once he's been 'subjected' to activities agreed upon - game over. Nice chatting and all, but not the client for me, no appointment offered.

If he isn't concerned about jacking off and understands that a session with me is about the experience of my capabilities as a Dominatrix - we proceed.

2) He is then given my bank deposit details and told the value of the deposit to be made within a certain time period. If it's a same day booking he's given no more than two hours, if booked in advance (by weeks or months, both aren't uncommon) he's given 24 hours. If the deposit isn't made within the time period given, I text him and tell him the appointment is cancelled. Any further attempt to reschedule an appointment will require full payment up front.
- If he says he doesn't use online banking, he is instructed to pay in branch over the counter.
- If he says he can't or doesn't want to do that he is told an appointment will not be offered.
- If he asks to pay by paypal, amazon giftcard or any other means it is simply rejected and no appointment offered

3) Once a deposit is received the appointment is then written in PEN in my diary (previously erasable pencil) and scheduled to go ahead.

4) Day of the appointment he is instructed to call TWO HOURS prior to the scheduled time to confirm he is still attending. If he doesn't call at all the deposit is kept as he has already been told it is non returnable.
- If he calls and says he cannot make the appointment but wants to reschedule for X day at X time, he is instructed to make a further deposit by X time. The the first and second deposit will go towards the total cost of his session.
- If on the day of the rearranged appointment there is no confirmation, the appointment is cancelled and deposit withheld. It will not be transferable again.

5) If the client confirms at the specific time given to him he is then given a postcode and told to park in the area then call back at five minutes to appointment time to give him walking details to location.
- If the client is traveling by public transport he is told which rail station is nearest and told to call at ten minutes to appointment time to get walking details from the train station.
- If the client say's they're traveling by TAXI, they are instructed to go to a nearby landmark and call at ten minutes to appointment time for walking details to location.


So, why all these hoops to jump through? Because I make the rules, that's why. And any potential client willing and able to oblige my protocol is a client with respect for how I operate is the type of client I want to work with.

Those who don't or won't filter themselves out.

[Nova70]

.... so he sent a text to get the room number and she should have given it to him,

It really does show what a nob you are.....

As he had been asked to call her that is what he should of done, where do you get off on she should do what he wants? I have many guys requesting I do anal, are you suggesting that I should do it if that is what they want, regardless of me not offering that? No wonder I think your an idiot

It is not for you to judge on the rights and wrongs of why she has asked him to call and whilst she may not be able to see him, she may ask him to confirm something in the local area to show that he is there. Or in certain circumstances, the hotel room may not be that easy to find, so not something that easy to explain in a text.

I have worked in flats where I do make sure I can see the person before giving the door number and I have no shortage of customers. And whilst I do not vet them as to if I wish to see them or not, if I did that would be my choice to do so.

Sarah x x x

Your twisting my words as usual, of course the likes/services list should be respected but if the wg in question has a set procedure which may incude eyeballing the client before giving the room number then she should clearly state that on her profile not drag punters along and then spring it on them, bbk did make the call but she didn't awnser, and I say again what would a call at that late stage really have told her.

If once in the room a wg decides she's not happy with the client for some reason such as a stroppy attitude or poor hygene then she's perfectly at liberty to say so and end the meeting, but how would seeing a client from a distance be of any benefit to her where issues like that are concerned.

[Strawberryblonde]

.... so he sent a text to get the room number and she should have given it to him,

It really does show what a nob you are.....

As he had been asked to call her that is what he should of done, where do you get off on she should do what he wants? I have many guys requesting I do anal, are you suggesting that I should do it if that is what they want, regardless of me not offering that? No wonder I think your an idiot

It is not for you to judge on the rights and wrongs of why she has asked him to call and whilst she may not be able to see him, she may ask him to confirm something in the local area to show that he is there. Or in certain circumstances, the hotel room may not be that easy to find, so not something that easy to explain in a text.

I have worked in flats where I do make sure I can see the person before giving the door number and I have no shortage of customers. And whilst I do not vet them as to if I wish to see them or not, if I did that would be my choice to do so.

Sarah x x x

Your twisting my words as usual, of course the likes/services list should be respected but if the wg in question has a set procedure which may incude eyeballing the client before giving the room number then she should clearly state that on her profile not drag punters along and then spring it on them, bbk did make the call but she didn't awnser, and I say again what would a call at that late stage really have told her.

If once in the room a wg decides she's not happy with the client for some reason such as a stroppy attitude or poor hygene then she's perfectly at liberty to say so and end the meeting, but how would seeing a client from a distance be of any benefit to her where issues like that are concerned.

Eyeballing for me was to make sure the person was there, I had quite a few call or text saying they were around the corner, and then disappear. I had no way of telling if they were in the vicinity or pulling my leg. Never had someone no show after I started doing that...........I also wanted to make sure the person didn't have a mask on - I had an armed robbery a few years back and if I'd looked at the person before letting them in I'd have seen they were wearing a mask or at least had chance to see their face. It can also help protect against anyone who might try and turn up with their mates. None of this is fool proof however it's all stuff that can minimise some of the risks.

Sighting a client doesn't however give any indication of how you'll get along, or tell you whether he's had a bath or not.

I always found great benefit in explaining the procedure at the time of booking, the client can then either accept it or have the option to not go ahead before anyone has reserved time or travelled.

[Nova70]

this kind of thing has been tried but as soon as punters become aware of it the wg concerned will see a big drop in business.

Careful nova, you're sounding a bit UKP there. My own personal outlook is that I'd rather see a handful of clients for the right reasons than masses of them for the wrong. The lady in question has set up her own system to make herself feel secure, nobody has the right to tell her to ignore that and give the prospective client what they want. The client has no right to her service, just as she has no obligation to carry out any pre agreed service if she gets even the slightest inclination that things don't feel right about someone.

And you think her system is tough? Here's mine (granted I'm not an escort, but I still allow people to meet me alone) .

1) I get a call (witheld numbers are rejected) asking if I'm available, we have a LONG discussion about what does NOT go on here, we discuss MY personal limits (no touching of me, no nudity on my part, no intimate body contact or any form of sex) and then his personal limits (for example, no knives, needles, scat), what his primary interest is in terms of fetishes/activities etc.

If his primary interest is focused around him having a wank once he's been 'subjected' to activities agreed upon - game over. Nice chatting and all, but not the client for me, no appointment offered.

If he isn't concerned about jacking off and understands that a session with me is about the experience of my capabilities as a Dominatrix - we proceed.

2) He is then given my bank deposit details and told the value of the deposit to be made within a certain time period. If it's a same day booking he's given no more than two hours, if booked in advance (by weeks or months, both aren't uncommon) he's given 24 hours. If the deposit isn't made within the time period given, I text him and tell him the appointment is cancelled. Any further attempt to reschedule an appointment will require full payment up front.
- If he says he doesn't use online banking, he is instructed to pay in branch over the counter.
- If he says he can't or doesn't want to do that he is told an appointment will not be offered.
- If he asks to pay by paypal, amazon giftcard or any other means it is simply rejected and no appointment offered

3) Once a deposit is received the appointment is then written in PEN in my diary (previously erasable pencil) and scheduled to go ahead.

4) Day of the appointment he is instructed to call TWO HOURS prior to the scheduled time to confirm he is still attending. If he doesn't call at all the deposit is kept as he has already been told it is non returnable.
- If he calls and says he cannot make the appointment but wants to reschedule for X day at X time, he is instructed to make a further deposit by X time. The the first and second deposit will go towards the total cost of his session.
- If on the day of the rearranged appointment there is no confirmation, the appointment is cancelled and deposit withheld. It will not be transferable again.

5) If the client confirms at the specific time given to him he is then given a postcode and told to park in the area then call back at five minutes to appointment time to give him walking details to location.
- If the client is traveling by public transport he is told which rail station is nearest and told to call at ten minutes to appointment time to get walking details from the train station.
- If the client say's they're traveling by TAXI, they are instructed to go to a nearby landmark and call at ten minutes to appointment time for walking details to location.


So, why all these hoops to jump through? Because I make the rules, that's why. And any potential client willing and able to oblige my protocol is a client with respect for how I operate is the type of client I want to work with.

Those who don't or won't filter themselves out.

Of course you are perfectly entitled to apply any rules you wish to ensure your safety and security but you make your rules clear before accepting a booking you don't spring this stuff on a client just a few minutes beforehand do you, I'm simply saying it's not fair to expect guys to turn up and then tell them this stuff, who knows they could have travelled some distance only to be told they don't fit the bill that's unproffesional and unacceptable.

I seem to remember reading reviews about a wg who gave her address as a certain apartment block and told clients to call when they were outside, it became clear that this was not the block she worked from she actually worked from the building across the road and she was trying to eyeball clients from her window before deciding whether or not to go through with it, her profile is no longer active.

[Nova70]

Looks like Nova is a novice at punting as well as webcamming lol. The 'WG's' as you call them are in control every time sweetie. They are the ones putting themselves at risk, and it is YOU who needs them, not the other way around. You play by their rules, including doing as asked.

A novice who's been doing this for the best part of a decade and has seen hundreds of women, if you don't mind me saying so Katie you have a rather romanticised view of this prostitution malarkey...............Why Mr Darcy you do presume too much, just because a lady advertises in the Escort section of the Adultwork website does not mean she is offereing services of a sexual nature, perhaps she is offering herself as an erudite, sophisticated and beautiful companion for the enjoyment of fine dining or the appreciation of culture, art galleries, the theatre or ballet. Or maybe just a stroll along the Charing Cross road to peruse the many book shops and antique emporiums that can be found there in the hope of discovering some rare tome or exotic curio.

The reality, I'm polite and straightforward in my communication when making a booking being clear about what I want, it's at this stage the wg concerned makes it clear how she likes things done, if for some reason we can't agree well that's that no problem, but if I make the appointment I turn up and call/text for the flat or room number a few minutes before, once in the room I hand over the money and take a shower out of courtesy even if I've showered less than a couple of hours before, I respect her limits but in return expect her to provide the services I've paid for, it really is that simple.

[sarahxxx]

Of course you are perfectly entitled to apply any rules you wish to ensure your safety and security but you make your rules clear before accepting a booking you don't spring this stuff on a client just a few minutes beforehand do you, I'm simply saying it's not fair to expect guys to turn up and then tell them this stuff, who knows they could have travelled some distance only to be told they don't fit the bill that's unproffesional and unacceptable.

Your posts are full of long winded bullshit and you struggle to keep to the point...

The guys has already told us that he had to call her and did so, he also told us that when he got cut off, he then refused to do so.

How is that twisting or springing surprises on a punter?

Again you rant on like a demented fool, about the rights of punters to see a girl.

A girl has a right not to see a guy for whatever reason she chooses, the same as he is entitled to walk out of the door without paying her should he so wish.

He may have travelled 100's of miles, she may have turned down other punters, they BOTH have the RIGHT to say NO.

In this case, the guy was a nob who choose not to call the girl again and then is frustrated by his own stupidity. All he had to do was call again, speak to her and go in. Had he have done so this may have been a whole different scenario.

Anybody in their right mind can see who is in the right and who is the nob, regardless of whatever I or other girls choose to do or not do to arrange a meeting with guys.

For you to defend him makes you look stupid, it is also stupid of you to suggest that she should text him the room number when she has asked him to call her.

Nobody should suggest that a girl should do something she does not wish to do, regardless of whatever it is.

Sarah x x x

[Pixie]

I Usually have my sub's call me when they get to my road, and then I give them my building and flat number. If I miss their call, then I call them back. She should have called him back really but maybe she had no credit or she was worried about them both calling at the same time and getting engaged tones.

I think it is perfectly acceptable for escorts to "eyeball" their clients before giving them their house\ flat details. Strawberry has a good point about the masks and/or friends. Also, it is well known that clients will set up new aw accounts and phone numbers in order to book an escort that he had previously seen and the girl did not want to see him again for whatever reason.

I think that the thing you are missing Nova, is how dangerous it is to be an escort. It is hard to protect ourselves and so we do what we can. Escorts across the country are so often subjected to being robbed, beaten, raped and non consensual bareback. And thats just the worst things. The smaller being unhygienic clients, rude clients, time wasters that have a thing for finding out escort addresses, clients secretly filming etc

Escorts have to put procedures in place to do their best to protect themselves.

X

[Nova70]

.... so he sent a text to get the room number and she should have given it to him,

It really does show what a nob you are.....

As he had been asked to call her that is what he should of done, where do you get off on she should do what he wants? I have many guys requesting I do anal, are you suggesting that I should do it if that is what they want, regardless of me not offering that? No wonder I think your an idiot

It is not for you to judge on the rights and wrongs of why she has asked him to call and whilst she may not be able to see him, she may ask him to confirm something in the local area to show that he is there. Or in certain circumstances, the hotel room may not be that easy to find, so not something that easy to explain in a text.

I have worked in flats where I do make sure I can see the person before giving the door number and I have no shortage of customers. And whilst I do not vet them as to if I wish to see them or not, if I did that would be my choice to do so.

Sarah x x x

Your twisting my words as usual, of course the likes/services list should be respected but if the wg in question has a set procedure which may incude eyeballing the client before giving the room number then she should clearly state that on her profile not drag punters along and then spring it on them, bbk did make the call but she didn't awnser, and I say again what would a call at that late stage really have told her.

If once in the room a wg decides she's not happy with the client for some reason such as a stroppy attitude or poor hygene then she's perfectly at liberty to say so and end the meeting, but how would seeing a client from a distance be of any benefit to her where issues like that are concerned.

Eyeballing for me was to make sure the person was there, I had quite a few call or text saying they were around the corner, and then disappear. I had no way of telling if they were in the vicinity or pulling my leg. Never had someone no show after I started doing that...........I also wanted to make sure the person didn't have a mask on - I had an armed robbery a few years back and if I'd looked at the person before letting them in I'd have seen they were wearing a mask or at least had chance to see their face. It can also help protect against anyone who might try and turn up with their mates. None of this is fool proof however it's all stuff that can minimise some of the risks.

Sighting a client doesn't however give any indication of how you'll get along, or tell you whether he's had a bath or not.

I always found great benefit in explaining the procedure at the time of booking, the client can then either accept it or have the option to not go ahead before anyone has reserved time or travelled.

Well that's fair enough because your informing your clients before agreeing to a booking what your procedures are but in the case we're discussing bbk was not given this information, how exactly did you arrange to eyeball your clients ?.

[Nova70]

I Usually have my sub's call me when they get to my road, and then I give them my building and flat number. If I miss their call, then I call them back. She should have called him back really but maybe she had no credit or she was worried about them both calling at the same time and getting engaged tones.

I think it is perfectly acceptable for escorts to "eyeball" their clients before giving them their house\ flat details. Strawberry has a good point about the masks and/or friends. Also, it is well known that clients will set up new aw accounts and phone numbers in order to book an escort that he had previously seen and the girl did not want to see him again for whatever reason.

I think that the thing you are missing Nova, is how dangerous it is to be an escort. It is hard to protect ourselves and so we do what we can. Escorts across the country are so often subjected to being robbed, beaten, raped and non consensual bareback. And thats just the worst things. The smaller being unhygienic clients, rude clients, time wasters that have a thing for finding out escort addresses, clients secretly filming etc

Escorts have to put procedures in place to do their best to protect themselves.

X

I honestly don't underestimate how vulnerable wgs can be as I've heard plenty of these stories during pillow talk all I'm saying is I've never been asked to go to an exact spot prior to a meeting and I'm still struggling to understand how seeing someone from a distance can tell you much about them. If I punt after work I'll be wearing a suit but at the weekend I'd be dressed casualy, same person different clothes so if a wg is making decisions based on things like this I think she's kidding herself, the notion that because someone looks decent and respectable they will be well behaved is a dangerous one.

And what about the safety of punters, forget the hotel scenario for a moment but imagine I'm being given these instructions about going to an exact place for a meet at a private residence, I could find myself in a quiet spot in an unfamiliar area possibly at night with my mobile phone on show and the person who's sent me there knows I've got a full wallet, this is not a hypothetical situation punters have been set up for robbery in this way.