PERSISTENT OFFENDERS

[Nova70]

Sarah I know that I promised to stop posting because some of what I wrote offended you, well actually most of what I wrote offended you my posts and the threads I started and I made you this promise out of respect for the fact you were here long before I was, but on reflection I feel I do have plenty to offer my knowledge of punting forums being part of that. At the end of the day if you don't like what I write you always have the option of ignoring it.

Persistent offenders, those individuals or groups who despite having their profiles shut down pop back up again and again, I have one particular group in mind but there are plenty more like them and the question is how do they get away with it.

The group I'm using as an example nearly always use pictures of the same very attractive woman and the profiles are usually verified, now the chances of a punter actually meeting this woman seem to be remote, the general feeling on forums is that this is a bait and switch outfit. The woman in the pictures however really does seem to be connected to the group, they don't seem to be using images nicked from the internet, I know this because they have also advertised on Ace Massage and the pictures are verified, now I know for that to happen on that site you have to actually visit their offices on the Chelsea Road in London, so how does verification work on AW.

The profiles for this group come and go frequently and I'm sure they are often reported to AW but the question is how do they find it so easy to start again with new profiles. I know that they can use a different device each time they do this so their IP address will not arouse suspicion and I assume you do not have to have your pictures up immediately so they may not be spotted that way but you would think that just occasionally those at AW would have a browse round their own site and think to themselves hold on a minute I've seen those pictures before, now maybe that does happen but I fear most often the profiles get reported by disgruntled punters, surely AW could make use of picture recognition technology on their site to at least make things a little more difficult for people like this.

[sarahxxx]

Sarah I know that I promised to stop posting because some of what I wrote offended you, well actually most of what I wrote offended you

Why do guys have such opinion of themselves to think they can annoy or offend me, i do not know you, you are an anonymous individual who may or may not have posted here before under another name and for all I know could be one of the individuals that post fake profiles on AW to give yourself something to talk about.

You would have to matter to me, for me to be annoyed or bothered about what you have to say or think.

You have a right to post here as much as anybody else, I was surprised that you sent me a private message saying you would no longer post here but also knew that you would post again. It was a stupid thing to say and that did not come as a surprise.

Until I saw your post I had forgotten all about you.

Sarah x x x

[torrentmike]

As mentioned before, adultwork is a website like all other website and is here to make money. We punters will always be at an disavantage because we have no direct money benefit for the site. This explains why some of my threads were removed giving the reason of spamming the boards. It's ridiculous when you see b&s profiles everywhere to con people and they are getting away with it.

[torrentmike]

I'm having a horny moment but too bad there's nothing but dodgy profiles in my area. Oh well, they are not getting my money. I may be better at home, sitting naked on my sofa, and watch a bit of porntube and think of wife4rent

[Ward]

Couldn't they have the verification picture available to the public? Or an option to subscribe to view it, to return that supposed loss. Mandatory profile, pic update yearly, Mandatory verified, or closure. Negative review on a 3 strike basis, and a reviewing option without using the booking system if there is a number alongside.

The web traffiic alone is worth those bitcoins anyway without the quarter/cent on the profile.

If only Carlsberg made......

[Strawberryblonde]

The problem is that many genuine SPs do not want face photos displayed.

Private galleries do sometimes contain face photos, but once again some genuine ladies do not want to use this, whereas a scammer using someone else to pose for them or a purchased profile won't give a toss.

Some recently send me a message advising me to hide my verification photo, he seemed to think that due to the rural area it wouldn't be discrete.

This is one example of situations some SPs may find themselves in, not everyone is in a location of high population density.

[Ward]

The problem is that many genuine SPs do not want face photos displayed.

Private galleries do sometimes contain face photos, but once again some genuine ladies do not want to use this, whereas a scammer using someone else to pose for them or a purchased profile won't give a toss.

Some recently send me a message advising me to hide my verification photo, he seemed to think that due to the rural area it wouldn't be discrete.

This is one example of situations some SPs may find themselves in, not everyone is in a location of high population density.

The chances are Strawberryblonde hmm icecream sunday... Discretion goes without saying. Hence a membership subscription fee to uncover that verification. The odds are you are known locally anyway. Really, you are using AW. I empathise with some of your concern if you are worried. Often your neighbours, and punters all know about any garage sale. Most wouldn't care if there is that same level of descretionary respect, that is a city though, not some toon out in the sticks.

Those same private galleries are just as fake, however now we're paying for those private galleries mentioned. The only photo that isn't supposedly fake was the one you set up your account with? Although often that is massively out of date when it isn't maintained up to current date. The same with the rest of any profile.

It isn't always about the picture it is about the service, the picture will often immediately create problems when it is misrepresented. Where a pro with the right attitude comes in. That word here can often mean nothing as it is the customers fault.

[Strawberryblonde]

The worry wasn't particularly for me, it was for other ladies.

There are fakes on all directories - which is all AW is.

I've known guys clamour to see other ladies who look nothing like their photos, and return. They say they don't care. Sometimes the service isn't even very good, but they are persistent just the same just in the hope that the SP does change.

Baffles me.

I don't think fakes will ever be eliminated, and becoming draconian does put genuine providers off plus fakers find ways around it.

As far as I'm concerned the fault originates with the person falsely advertising, not the customer but as I've just said, some customers aren't bothered and that is one way they stay in business.

Providing a good service, being what you say you are is another way to build up a good solid base, with no need to fake.

[Ward]

The worry wasn't particularly for me, it was for other ladies.

There are fakes on all directories - which is all AW is.

I've known guys clamour to see other ladies who look nothing like their photos, and return. They say they don't care. Sometimes the service isn't even very good, but they are persistent just the same just in the hope that the SP does change.

Baffles me.

I don't think fakes will ever be eliminated, and becoming draconian does put genuine providers off plus fakers find ways around it.

As far as I'm concerned the fault originates with the person falsely advertising, not the customer but as I've just said, some customers aren't bothered and that is one way they stay in business.

Providing a good service, being what you say you are is another way to build up a good solid base, with no need to fake.

That worry would be for anyone anywhere their risk is often the same today.

The photo is only part of the problem, after taking the time to select, travel, prepare, arrange. We arrive coming to where or what is different then our expectations with somebody who is just damn rude and totally unprofessional. Most wouldn't mind if a pro could give them a better time, when the photo is already wrong you will have some catching up to do.

Draconian measures would you leave this provider, no, neither will any punters. Only now you will have cleaned this up somewhat. Making it far easier to remove those who are causing problems.

They will still be in business in those back pages and phoneboxes etc

Although possibly creating a better environment for us Gents to find those genuine Ladies here, because now you have just up'ed your game

[Nova70]

Couldn't they have the verification picture available to the public? Or an option to subscribe to view it, to return that supposed loss. Mandatory profile, pic update yearly, Mandatory verified, or closure. Negative review on a 3 strike basis, and a reviewing option without using the booking system if there is a number alongside.

The web traffiic alone is worth those bitcoins anyway without the quarter/cent on the profile.

If only Carlsberg made......

Even though you are no longer with us Ward you made some interesting points, I have to agree with Strawberry though over viewing the verification picture as it wouldn't be fair to insist on that, I certainly like to see a face pic but can understand the reasons an advertiser might not want to do that, the three negative reviews and your out idea I'm afraid could be triggered maliciously but it would be interesting to know if AW themselves have a complaint threshold for individual profiles. Always worth remembering to go to the FR section on AW when your interested in a profile rather than just reading the ones on the profile itself, I can't recall seeing a negative FR actually on a profile and that's not surprising of course but I'm sure someone will now tell me that they do include their negative reviews as well.