Doesn't Enjoy

[Trinity-Belle]

Has anyone noticed the "Doesn't Enjoy" tab on our profiles, next to the "Enjoys" list?

It seems to be a reversal of our "Enjoys" list, which seems a little ridiculous to me.

So the very first thing on my "Doesn't Enjoy" list is "A" Levels... because "A" Levels (at discretion) appears in my Enjoys list.

Also, there are things which I don't specifically put on my Enjoys list because I don't want to attract the kind of guys who are looking for those things as they are not my speciality... like BDSM and domination. But if a guy asks and his fantasy is not too hardcore for me, then I will take his booking. But now those things are specifically in my "Doesn't Enjoy" list, so presumably guys will just go elsewhere.

The alternative is that I add them to my "Enjoys" list, and then have to let people down when they contact me thinking I am a full on dominatrix!

Am I the only one who thinks this is silly?

I don't think I am because it is being discussed on other forums I'm a member of and no one seem to think it is a good idea... well, it is a good idea, but it has been badly implemented. We need to be able to choose what goes on our "Doesn't Enjoy" list, surely?

I've mailed AW about it three times now:

I have to object to the "dislikes" section you have added! It is a good idea in principal, but it makes a bit of a mockery of the "at discretion" option. For example, I have CIM at discretion, but when you look at my dislikes list, it says I "dislike" CIM! I don't dislike it, I love it! But I do reserve the right to refuse it to anyone who is smelly and unwashed or has warts or looks/smells/tastes unhealthy! Even French Kissing appears on there! I absolutely adore French Kissing... it is one of my favorite things! Just because I want to reserve the right to refuse it to someone who has serious halitosis does not mean I "dislike" it... but it manages to appear on my list of things I don't like? Can we not have a triple state check box in out enjoys list, so that we can absolutely rule certain activities out? I would, for example, want to rule our watersports and hardsports. The idea is a good one, but sadly it has been rather poorly implemented. Sorry to be critical.

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Hmmmm... I don't think they understood the problem... so....

Thanks for answering my question about dislikes, but it does not begin to address the problem. For example, According to my "Enjoys" list, I like "A" Levels (at discretion) but if you look at my "doesn't enjoy" list, it says that I don't enjoy "A" Levels! Likewise for French Kissing and, in fact, this is true for everything which has an "at discretion" option. If anyone looks at my "doesn't like" list, they will think I don't offer "A" or French Kissing. This could be very damaging to me as they are, in fact, central to my offering. But this new "doesn't enjoy" list is effectively forcing me to tick "A" Levels as well as "A" Levels (at discretion) just to prevent it appearing in my "Doesn't enjoy" list. Thanks for looking at this. x

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I really don't think they understand what I am trying to say... so today I have sent:

I don't think you understand the problem here! It is not about the difference between "At Discretion" and not, that is absolutely clear, although this new feature does make it less clear. The problem is with the new tab on our profiles which is next to the "Enjoys" list and says "Doesn't Enjoy". Just look at mine. The first thing in my "Doesn't Enjoy" list is "A" Levels. That is just silly... why would I put that in my "Doesn't Enjoy" list? You have to remember that guys will presume that we have made those lists ourselves. I would want to have things like hardsports and watersports in my "doesn't enjoy" list, but to have a list which is just the opposite of what is in my Enjoys list is, frankly, rather silly. It's a shame, because the idea is good. Everyone on all the forums is talking about this and no one likes it. Every one thinks it it ridiculous. There are lots of things I don't include on my Enjoys list simply because they are not a part of my standard offering. Guys are welcome to ask about them though. Thinks like BDSM and tie and tease... it's not what I specialise in and I don't want to attract guys who are specifically looking for these activities, but if someone asks me then I might do what they want me to do depending how hardcore they sound. But now those things are in my "Doesn't Enjoy" list, so guys won't ask.... they will just go elsewhere. But if I put them in my Enjoys list, then I will get guys expecting me to offer a full on Dom service, which isn't what I do. I would be better off just unticking everything and not using that feature on my profile because the alternative is to put things I don't really want to offer into my "Enjoys" list just to stop them appearing in my "Doesn't Enjoy" List. I can't be the only person who has pointed this out? It is a good idea to have a list... but we need to be able to CHOOSE what goes in that list! All it would take is for our selection panel to be a triple state tick box. Thanks for looking at this again. x

Is it me being stupid?

Do I need to phrase it differently?

Am I making a problem where there isn't one?

[Scotty_Hottie]

I don't escort so I don't have this problem, but I just wanted to say that I understand exactly what you are saying. I understood it the first time you said it. They are being a little bit special...

[crystal denison]

it seems adultwork can sometimes not understand simple english , its very annoying

[kinkydirtybitch]

I think it's a brilliant idea & enforces what we don't have in our likes list which clearly are overlooked, hence this new feature

[Classy_Katy]

I agree Trinity, it's just not that black and white is it? I have likes on my profile although I don't escort and I don't agree with the things it now says that I dislike either.

[christie]

Trinity, I think you put it very clearly and I also understand that it can cause confusion. But you have to realise that this is AW's game and they are going to do just what they want. You will just have to use a work round, put a tab in your profile with clear limits as to what you will do and with whom.

[Classy_Katy]

That's interesting...I just looked at my profile again and now I only have the "enjoys" tab. Maybe enough people have complained!

[Trinity-Belle]

I think it's a brilliant idea & enforces what we don't have in our likes list which clearly are overlooked, hence this new feature

Yes, it is a brilliant idea... but only if it is done properly!

You are an intelligent, professional girl with a good reputation... I am sure you can see the difference between not saying you enjoy something and saying that you dislike something?

I notice that your "dislikes" list is very short indeed and you choose to put everything else down as a "like", including putting both the "at discretion" options as well as the not discretionary ones. So for YOU is probably does do exactly what you say. But we do not all do that... I choose to keep thinks off my "Enjoys" list, as I think a lot of girls do... but I don't necessarily want them to appear in my "Doesn't Enjoy" list.

If we all organised our profiles that way, putting everything except the stuff we absolutely will not do into our "enjoys" list, the search facility would become pretty useless because guys would find everyone all the time no mater what they searched for, unless they were looking for something very niche like Hardsports.

I feel as though I am being forced to add things to my "Enjoys" list, just to stop them appearing in my "Doesn't Enjoy" list.

And yes, I realise that the search facility works that way anyway, but not being found by someone who is searching for something specific is very different from having someone who has already found your profile and likes it enough to look in more detail, click on the "Doesn't Enjoy" tab and see "French Kissing" in the list! And the reason it is there? Because I have ticked the "At Discretion" option. What... should I tick both? Like you do?

[Trinity-Belle]

Earlier today I had this message from AW:

We're going to implement something along the lines of what you're asking for, but you should be aware that members are already able to exclude members that have not selected something on their enjoys list, via the "dislikes" column on the Search Page. This works by excluding members who have said they enjoy something.

This feature was added by member request. More members were asking for it than have currently reported any problem with it. All the tab does is reinforce how the dislike column on the search page works.

You either enjoy something or not. We accept this list can be interpreted as service offerings, but if some thing's not listed, it could be assumed as not being offered, effectively, not enjoyed.

This could be one of those, can't please all of the people all of the time. It was requested by several members to avoid repetative emails about services they have not marked as "enjoyed".

I replied again with one last ditch effort to explain what I mean, as it is clear from comments not only on this forum but on others also that whilst everyone can see the benefit in principal from something like this, many people do not appreciate this new feature in it's current form.

I have now received this message:

Thanks, we have removed the "Doesn't Enjoy" tab pending an alternative implementation. We now await the barrage of people requesting it to be brought back. Nevertheless, the more feature rich version is what we aspire to.

Thanks for your input.

It is very heartening to know that AdultWork really do listen to their members. I am very impressed that they have taken this action and I will very much look forward to the new and improved version of the "Doesn't Enjoy" list some time in the near future.

It is an excellent idea, and done properly it will be a huge benefit to all the members, both providers and clients.

A "Feature Rich" version would be very good indeed.

[MrSmith767]

I totally see where you were coming from, and they have disabled the feature (that was quick)